He was at mate in 2 and instead of resigning

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12 Oct '07 20:44

ben mossberg
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12 Oct '07 20:446 edits
Game id 3924207

Unbelievable,

I had played Gaskit into a position where he was to be mated in 2 moves and then over the course of the weekend he took advantage of a time out opportunity and claimed a victory. I had been expecting to see his resignation. There was zero opportunity for him to avoid a loss, other than through the very unsportsmanlike behavior which he displayed.

Is it worth considering making it impossible to claim a time out victory if you are in an intractably losing position?
(Yes I can see where there would be problems with this, but I don't need to delve into them, with some working they could be resolved)

I would likely have not written this had Gaskit agreed to a rematch.

All around poor form. It's one thing to claim a victory when the game is undecided or you are in a winning position. Quite another when you have been fairly beaten.
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12 Oct '07 20:45
Originally posted by ben mossberg
Game id 3924207

Unbelievable,
I had played Gaskit into a position where he was to be mated in 2 moves and then over the course of the weekend he took advantage of a time out opportunity and claimed a victory. I had been expecting to see his resignation. There was zero opportunity for him to avoid a loss, other than through the very unsportsmanlike ...[text shortened]... is undecided or you are in a winning position. Quite another when you have been fairly beaten.
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12 Oct '07 20:58
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12 Oct '07 21:05
You lost, all you had to do was make a move, deal with it. 😠
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12 Oct '07 21:05
Originally posted by ben mossberg
Game id 3924207

Unbelievable,

I had played Gaskit into a position where he was to be mated in 2 moves and then over the course of the weekend he took advantage of a time out opportunity and claimed a victory. I had been expecting to see his resignation. There was zero opportunity for him to avoid a loss, other than through the very unsportsmanli ...[text shortened]... her when you have been fairly beaten.
[fen]8/1R6/p2N3p/k6p/8/2p5/PPP2PPP/6K1 w - - 0 35[/fen]
Did you consider playing Rc4+ instead of waiting for him to resign?
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12 Oct '07 21:11
I was loopholed.
There was a long weekend where I live that was spent with family.
As I mentioned, at a mate in I thought I could be confident that no one would stoop as low as claiming a time out win.

The way I would like to "deal with it" is a rematch.
Which the outclassed player is refusing.

I don't think you could seriously say that taking a win in this way is an very sportsmanlike thing to do.
This is chess, not "collect wins any way possible"
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12 Oct '07 21:13
Originally posted by Red Night
Did you consider playing Rc4+ instead of waiting for him to resign?
It was his move when I left for the weekend.

Like I said, I had expected him to just resign. Not make a futile pawn move then claim a time out
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12 Oct '07 21:15
Originally posted by ben mossberg
Game id 3924207

Unbelievable,

I had played Gaskit into a position where he was to be mated in 2 moves and then over the course of the weekend he took advantage of a time out opportunity and claimed a victory. I had been expecting to see his resignation. There was zero opportunity for him to avoid a loss, other than through the very unsportsmanli ...[text shortened]... is undecided or you are in a winning position. Quite another when you have been fairly beaten.
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The fearsome beast of victory will rage across the board, and all will bleed.
That is how I will eradicate my opponents. That is how I shall play."

Not too surprising that your opponent timed you out.
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12 Oct '07 21:16
Originally posted by ben mossberg
I don't think you could seriously say that taking a win in this way is an very sportsmanlike thing to do.
This is chess, not "collect wins any way possible"
Yes i am serious in that regard. When someone leaves a piece hanging you grab it, no excuses need to be made.
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12 Oct '07 21:20
Originally posted by ben mossberg
Game id 3924207

Unbelievable,

I had played Gaskit into a position where he was to be mated in 2 moves and then over the course of the weekend he took advantage of a time out opportunity and claimed a victory. I had been expecting to see his resignation. There was zero opportunity for him to avoid a loss, other than through the very unsportsmanli ...[text shortened]... her when you have been fairly beaten.
[fen]8/1R6/p2N3p/k6p/8/2p5/PPP2PPP/6K1 w - - 0 35[/fen]
He had you right where he wanted you. 🙂

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12 Oct '07 21:25
Originally posted by ben mossberg
I was loopholed.
There was a long weekend where I live that was spent with family.
As I mentioned, at a mate in I thought I could be confident that no one would stoop as low as claiming a time out win.

The way I would like to "deal with it" is a rematch.
Which the outclassed player is refusing.

I don't think you could seriously say that taking ...[text shortened]... is an very sportsmanlike thing to do.
This is chess, not "collect wins any way possible"
Maybe you should consider using a timebank that is more appropriate to your lifestyle in the future
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12 Oct '07 21:26
I think it's poor form of you to drag this into everyone's attention. Whiner.
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12 Oct '07 21:301 edit
Originally posted by ben mossberg

All around poor form. It's one thing to claim a victory when the game is undecided or you are in a winning position. Quite another when you have been fairly beaten.
Your flag fell. You have no one to blame but yourself.
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12 Oct '07 21:34
Bah,

This whole post is clearly a bid to shame Gaskit into a rematch.

I thought you were chess players.

Do you really suppose I thought the magic Chess Fairy was going to flitter in and reverse the outcome of the game?
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12 Oct '07 21:361 edit
Originally posted by Red Night
Did you consider playing Rc4+ instead of waiting for him to resign?
I suppose you meant Knc4?

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He was at mate in 2 and instead of resigning