10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIt`s better for you to read what expert says about evaluation of position. http://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-evaluate-a-position
we were talking about the opening and how one might consider where the best piece
placements should be, perhaps you have a better method for evaluating the positions
which arise from the opening, well, let it be heard.
Originally posted by Pacifiquesorry tell me again what it was about pawn structures and the opening to which I
It`s better for you to read what expert says about evaluation of position. http://www.chess.com/article/view/how-to-evaluate-a-position
alluded that was unsound, you have FAILED to say? why are you taking the diagrams
that I posted out of context? It would be better for you to use your own mind.
Not one person in this entire forum has stated why the diagrams i posted and the
placement of pieces in the opening phase based on those pawn structures is unsound!
until you can, i suggest you pony up and do so or stop taking them out of context.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGreenpawn already demonstrated examples of your inability to evaluate position. Bad for you if you can`t understand it.
sorry tell me again what it was about pawn structures and the opening to which I
alluded that was unsound, you have FAILED to say? what is it about pawn structures
and the placement of pieces in the opening phase that you fail to understand? why are
you taking the diagrams that I posted out of context? It would be better for you to use
your own mind.
Originally posted by Pacifiquethe diagrams that i initially posted were for what phase of the game? the opening, why
Greenpawn already demonstrated examples of your inability to evaluate position. Bad for you if you can`t understand it.
then are you now taking them out of context and applying them to the middle game
and actually greenpawn did nothing of the sort, the position which resulted was drawish
at best for white, if you knew how to evaluate a position, you would know that. So tell
me why are you taking my statements about the opening phase and the diagrams that i
posted out of context?
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieIf strong players evaluate opening taking into account only pawn structure, then can you tell me why Ruy Lopez Exchange (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bc6) are played not so often as 4.Ba4 ? Pawn ending with such a pawn structure should be win for White.
the diagrams that i initially posted were for what phase of the game? the opening, why
then are you now taking them out of context and applying them to the middle game
and actually greenpawn did nothing of the sort, the position which resulted was drawish
at best for white, if you knew how to evaluate a position, you would know that. So tell ...[text shortened]... ou taking my statements about the opening phase and the diagrams that i
posted out of context?
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by Pacifiquehere is your comment,
Greenpawn already demonstrated examples of your inability to evaluate position. Bad for you if you can`t understand it.
Evaluation based solely on pawn structure (without taking into account other pieces) is
nonsense. I tend to agree with Greenpawn - player of 1500-1600 should study tactics,
tactics & tactics (+ maybe also elementary strategic principles).
the opening poster was asking about the opening phase of the game, were you aware
of this? i doubt it, for if you were, you would not have uttered this silly comment, of
course there are other elements, but we were talking about the opening phase of the
game, a rather fundamental flaw to your argument, yah think!
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by PacifiqueDon't feed the troll.
If strong players evaluate opening taking into account only pawn structure, then can you tell me why Ruy Lopez Exchange (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bc6) are played not so often as 4.Ba4 ? Pawn ending with such a pawn structure should be win for White.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by Pacifiqueso my comments were unsound because of the Ruy Lopez exchange variation???? Is
If strong players evaluate opening taking into account only pawn structure, then can you tell me why Ruy Lopez Exchange (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bc6) are played not so often as 4.Ba4 ? Pawn ending with such a pawn structure should be win for White.
that really the best you can do? why indeed double blacks pawns and give up the light
squared bishop, it has nothing to do with pawns, jeez! i need to feel my bum to make
sure this is not some foul nightmare.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by Proper Knobthat comment is out of order PK, either pony up the evidence and state why the
Don't feed the troll.
diagrams that i posted in the opening phase and the evaluation of piece placements
based on those structures was unsound or get back to spirituality and stop talking
nonsense.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobie"double blacks pawn" means "nothing to do with pawns"? 😀
so my comments were unsound because of the Ruy Lopez exchange variation???? Is
that really the best you can do? why indeed double blacks pawns and give up the light
squared bishop, it has nothing to do with pawns, jeez! i need to feel my bum to make
sure this is not some foul nightmare.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieFor your notice - in Ruy Lopez exchange Black can`t avoid exchange of White d-pawn after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.d4. How your "only pawns" evaluation works after 5...exd4 6.Qxd4 ?
this diagram is therefore meaningless? and will not influence whites strategic decisions
in any way?
[fen]6k1/1pp2ppp/p1p5/4p3/4P3/8/PPPP1PPP/6K1 b - - 0 5[/fen]
Originally posted by Pacifiqueyou dont say, black cannot avoid double pawns, what a revelation! d4 i would not play
For your notice - in Ruy Lopez exchange Black can`t avoid exchange of White d-pawn after 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Bxc6 dxc6 5.d4. How your "only pawns" evaluation works after 5...exd4 6.Qxd4 ?
d4??, i would play as Capa did with d3, d4 opens the position up and black has two
bishops, why should i open the position up for blacks two bishops?
excellent doubled pawns! and a half open f file, you were saying ?
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10 Feb 12
If you hate opening theory as black you can play queen''s gambit declined (d4, e6, Nf6, Be7, 0-0) against everything but 1. e4 against which you can play the scandinavian defence, as white you can start with 1. e4 and then play the center game against ...e5, french exchange against ...e6, caro kann exchange against ...c6 and against sicilian just play center game again with 1. e4 c5 2. d4 cxd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3.
10 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieBeetle and Greenpawn or Robbie Carrobie? I know where i'm putting my money.
that comment is out of order PK, either pony up the evidence and state why the
diagrams that i posted in the opening phase and the evaluation of piece placements
based on those structures was unsound or get back to spirituality and stop talking
nonsense.