Originally posted by svin14 ... Qe7 puts pressure on whites rook and freezes his knight.
Hi there,
Just wondering whether you would care to elaborate a bit on Qe7 being the superior move (with 2(!) exclamation marks 🙂)?
Is it becausse Qb4 will end up with a queen exchange and a game that's most likely to be a draw?
Or is the "defensive" move better for some reason I can't see?
Just wondering.
Regards,
Mads
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Originally posted by RagnorakMy connection's up and down at the moment, so bear with me: 14...Qb4+ 15. Q3c Qxc3 16. Pxc3 (Nxc3 is dumb) Nf6 (nullifies Rg4). 17.?...Ke7 (the timing of this move depends on White but we're nearly in the endgame, so there's no point in castling).
What's the line where u get the pawn advantage? Post it up and let us have a look at it.
So what have we got now? White knights can't go anywhere threatening (I'd go for another knight exchange here, but just one), white rooks are completely separated and no threat at all. I can't give you an exact line, which depends on what he plays, but his pawns on c3 and h5 are very tempting and one of them's for the taking. Then the endgame.
But then I may be wrong...
Originally posted by RagnorakHeres two games between these fellows,both draws.
Can u point us to any online resource with some information on this position? We seem to be in a losing position at the moment, and Qb4+ looks like it could relieve some of the pressure we are under.
After 14 ... Qb4+, there are 4 choices...
a) 15. Qc3 Qxc3+ 16. bxc3 [16. Nxc3 Nge6] Ke7 17. Nc5 Nxc5 18. dxc5
b) 15. Nc3 Ngf6 16. d5 Qd6
c) 15. c3 Qe7 ...[text shortened]... t its a non-threatening defensive move, and IM has stated he hates playing defensively.
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Boris Spassky vs Mikhail Botvinnik
Qb4 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032834
Qe7 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032835
Originally posted by buffalobillThe problem with that line is the 17.? move. The normal move in that position is 17. Nd6+ winning the b7 pawn.
My connection's up and down at the moment, so bear with me: 14...Qb4+ 15. Q3c Qxc3 16. Pxc3 (Nxc3 is dumb) Nf6 (nullifies Rg4). 17.?...Ke7 (the timing of this move depends on White but we're nearly in the endgame, so there's no point in castling).
So what have we got now? White knights can't go anywhere threatening (I'd go for another knight exchan ...[text shortened]... very tempting and one of them's for the taking. Then the endgame.
But then I may be wrong...
schakuhr, how can u say your an adventurer and then choose the defensive move? 😛
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Originally posted by xsCan anybody tell me why, in the Qb4 line, 17 ...Nxc5 isn't played? Looking at the position, it looks like it gives Black an advantage, rather than going down a pawn?
Heres two games between these fellows,both draws.
Boris Spassky vs Mikhail Botvinnik
Qb4 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032834
Qe7 http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1032835
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