1. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    16 Feb '07 11:05
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    You have quite a few issues with your position as well, and Ive commented on each and everyone of your glaring weaknesses, in our in game comments. I would not even consider accepting a draw at this point, lets put it that way.
    I wouldn't even consider offering one, your position is so full of holes.

    Bigger holes than this even 😀
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    16 Feb '07 14:27
    Game 3123964

    The Grob has traps for the unwary. 😳
  3. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    16 Feb '07 14:35
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    Game 3123964

    The Grob has traps for the unwary. 😳
    Elementary my dear Diet! You must get in Nc3 before opening the a8-h1 diagonal and the c file. Both Qb3 and Nc3 are probably best before cd and definately before Qxb7.
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    16 Feb '07 14:44
    A better attempt.

    Hopefully!

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  5. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    16 Feb '07 15:11
    Originally posted by Diet Coke
    A better attempt.

    Hopefully!

    Game 3124576
    In progress so no comments either than I am glad to see you took the advice above on board (or learnt from your previous error) for this game.

    I will watch it with anticipation although even I do not try the Grob in a serious game against a 2000+ player (except OTB of course).
  6. Standard memberDutch Defense
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    12 Mar '07 21:322 edits
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    I just read an annotated grubenstein game, and Grandmaster Keene says, "G4 is the worst possible move you can start out with, even worse than f3 and h4"

    I was wondering if the rest of you concur about that sentiment or have other ideas.

    Here's the link to the game, he beat the author of, "The Killer Grob":

    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chessgame?gid=1026281
    In my opinion, it's h4. 😲 This is called the Deprez opening.
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    12 Mar '07 21:45
    1.h4 shows a remarkable lack of understanding of the basics of chess.

    If someone played it against me OTB I think I'd slap them or laugh out loud, depending of what sort of day I'd had.
    It's either worryingly stupid or very patronising.
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    12 Mar '07 21:51
    Originally posted by Squelchbelch
    1.h4 shows a remarkable lack of understanding of the basics of chess.

    If someone played it against me OTB I think I'd slap them or laugh out loud, depending of what sort of day I'd had.
    It's either worryingly stupid or very patronising.
    funny. you wernt laughing here

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    12 Mar '07 21:541 edit
    Originally posted by HomerJSimpson
    funny. you wernt laughing here

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    Ouch!
    :'(

    He was too far away to slap!
  10. Standard memberKorch
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    12 Mar '07 22:021 edit
    I think that in first move white can afford almost anything and get at least equal play. One of the main pluses of unortodoux moves is that black often thinks that they can punish easily such odd moves and it can lead to careless play.
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    12 Mar '07 23:21
    Originally posted by Dies Irae
    It seems like the most damage you can do to your king side in the first move.
    indeed, even worse than 1. h4, as h4 does not leave any squares unattended to on the kingside, where 1. g4 severely cripples the squares: f3 and f4...
    h3 and h4 are even worse off, as they will never be defended by a white pawn for the rest of the game (except, of course, for hxg3)
    but I don't think white could POSSIBLY think about 1. g4 and a future 0-0...
    it's just suicide
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    12 Mar '07 23:29
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    indeed, even worse than 1. h4, as h4 does not leave any squares unattended to on the kingside, where 1. g4 severely cripples the squares: f3 and f4...
    h3 and h4 are even worse off, as they will never be defended by a white pawn for the rest of the game (except, of course, for hxg3)
    but I don't think white could POSSIBLY think about 1. g4 and a future 0-0...
    it's just suicide
    Here we go again.

    It is so very bad these are my results from 49 games.

    W 45 D 3 L 1

    The sole loss was to Korch, a true master of defense.
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    12 Mar '07 23:37
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Here we go again.

    It is so very bad these are my results from 49 games.

    W 45 D 3 L 1

    The sole loss was to Korch, a true master of defense.
    Michael John Basman could make it two apparently...
    look at the first post in this thread
  14. Standard memberDragon Fire
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    12 Mar '07 23:46
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    Michael John Basman could make it two apparently...
    look at the first post in this thread
    Basmans an IM. The Killer Grob shows victories for white against many GMs by Basman.
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    13 Mar '07 00:06
    Originally posted by Dragon Fire
    Basmans an IM. The Killer Grob shows victories for white against many GMs by Basman.
    well, I'm a genius...
    I meant that Raymond Keene would make it 2 losses
    what would you have done diferrently than white in that game?
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