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Originally posted by Jee
Here's one opening that I like. Gets a pretty solid central position with pawn and open the rook + Queen attack on the f column (after moving B + castle). But everybody told me so far that it's crazy to loose the Knight so early for that.

What do you feel about it?

1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Nxe5 Nxe5
4. d4 Nc6
5. f4
You're trying to attack before you've even started developing, you move a piece twice and give it away. This might work in bullet but shouldn't in corr.
If this opening is sound then 150 years of chess theory is wrong.

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Originally posted by Knightlore
If this opening is sound then 150 years of chess theory is wrong.
Jee, just for that I'll keep messing around with it.

What did they say again to Galileo?

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Originally posted by Jee
Jee, just for that I'll keep messing around with it.

What did they say again to Galileo?
We'll burn you at the stake.

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Originally posted by Jee
But everybody told me so far that it's crazy to loose the Knight so early for that.
They are right, that's not a sac, that's simply throwing away a piece for nothing.

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Originally posted by Jee
Jee, just for that I'll keep messing around with it.

What did they say again to Galileo?
Come back and let me know when you can beat a 1400 playing like that...

I'll buy you a beer.

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If you must sac your knight in the opening because it's just something you do, then I suggest you sac if for the f7-pawn. This exposes black king very early, get your bishop to c4 attacking f7, get your queen out and try to mate him before he can develop.

Btw, this is the wrong way to play chess but if you have to play like that, sac it on f7.

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I take good notice of all your advices and critics, and maybe indeed there a better way to get that Knight out of the way, or maybe it's just too early to do such a "take no prisoners" move.

But... πŸ˜€

What if we stop mourning one sec on the corpse of that Knight, couldn't it be seen as a piece development (just to escape that stake part)? Because at the end of the day, I've got 3 pawns solidly developed and Black has only one Knight that is stucked probably for a while in C6.

--> I've develop 3 pieces, I am ready to develop the big ones, I have kind of a solid control of the centre of the board with no pawn really blocking the major pieces development. And i have a plan which is to get in through f7.

So I aint really ignoring the theory neither (open/develop/attack), I am just going there all the way...

Well I'll play around with it and let you know...if I am still alive πŸ˜‰

ps: what will be the obvious way for blacks to ruin my plan?

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If I was playing the black side I would play 5....d5. Black really has no problems at all after that move - both of his bishops can get out easily, he's stopped any attacks on the a2-g8 diagonal (in particular attacks on the always vulnerable f7 square) and he can castle long or short. Black is, quite simply, a piece up and White might as well resign.

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Originally posted by Jee
ps: what will be the obvious way for blacks to ruin my plan?
Play normal chess and win the ensuing endgame. You'll learn more if you stop trying to think up gimmicky tricks and concentrate on making good moves.

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If I was playing the black side I would play 5....d5.

White will go e5 and f5 after castling, blocking/taking bishop. As well e5 annoys the black g Knight.

Black really has no problems at all after that move

No they dont...yet, they just have nothing developed and three pawns to annoy their (pawns at least) development.

Play normal chess

Jee! Life is short dude - I think its just for that Fisher went for his random stuff

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Originally posted by Jee
I take good notice of all your advices and critics, and maybe indeed there a better way to get that Knight out of the way, or maybe it's just too early to do such a "take no prisoners" move.

But... πŸ˜€

What if we stop mourning one sec on the corpse of that Knight, couldn't it be seen as a piece development (just to escape that stake part)? Because at the en ...[text shortened]... ...if I am still alive πŸ˜‰

ps: what will be the obvious way for blacks to ruin my plan?
Pawns are not pieces. They are, in fact, pawns. You will have developed no pieces.

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Originally posted by Jee
What did they say again to Galileo?
"If you're going to play chess like that, then stick to astronomy."

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Originally posted by dottewell
"If you're going to play chess like that, then stick to astronomy."
Thats what my mum always told me...

And I would never dare comparing myself with the Big Fish.

Just trying to be imaginative and keep the fun, not aiming to go up to 2000, got no interest in that.

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Originally posted by Jee
Just trying to be imaginative and keep the fun, not aiming to go up to 2000, got no interest in that.
Then play the King's gambit. That'll scare 'em.