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I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like the players had somewhere else they needed to be.

It annoys me, in real life, when people dont want to have a look over the games as this is a point where I feel I learn much about the game and if I get cheated out of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.

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you won the games i presume?

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I won the one that went on really late which was why I was less concerned. One I drew but would have liked to look for improvements on my play and the other I lost against a much higher rated player and felt I could have learned alot by looking over this game.

The only guy who did analyse with me also beat me, but I learned some really useful opening tips off him which I had not realised before.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I won the one that went on really late which was why I was less concerned. One I drew but would have liked to look for improvements on my play and the other I lost against a much higher rated player and felt I could have learned alot by looking over this game.

The only guy who did analyse with me also beat me, but I learned some really useful opening tips off him which I had not realised before.
It's nice to be able to go back over the game right afterwards but most people are either tired or mad...that is why i was bringing up going to a tourney and knowing where the nearest bar is...we had quite a few FM's and GM's walk in and sit down and go over our games and theirs for the price of a beer at the NY Open.

Not only alot of fun but very instructive.

Dave

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like ...[text shortened]... ut of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.
I may say for sure - if I feel tired or next game is gonna start after short time then I wont analyse finished game.

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Originally posted by Korch
I may say for sure - if I feel tired or next game is gonna start after short time then I wont analyse finished game.
But this wasnt a tournament - all the games were all played on separate days and were between 3 and 4 hours each. Also, two of them finished in the early evening so the opponents shouldnt have been too tired. They even hung around watching the rest of the games after we had finished - that was what made it worse!

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like ...[text shortened]... ut of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.
I've noticed nobody really goes over games very often anymore. When i played in slow tournaments back in high school (20ish years ago), people tended to sit down after every game. I'm wondering if the very fast time controls in tournaments now have something to do with it; games are simply lower quality.

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After frying your brain for a couple of hours, trying to analyze the game immediately afterwards is a big drag. People want to relax and move around before the next round.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like ...[text shortened]... ut of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.
I believe if you ask your opponents, they likely will agree to go over the game. Try it.

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I won the one that went on really late which was why I was less concerned. One I drew but would have liked to look for improvements on my play and the other I lost against a much higher rated player and felt I could have learned alot by looking over this game.

The only guy who did analyse with me also beat me, but I learned some really useful opening tips off him which I had not realised before.
Would you mind sharing those tips with us?

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like ...[text shortened]... ut of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.
Shut up you old cont

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Originally posted by Tyrannosauruschex
I have played 4 real life competitive matches this week and only one opponent was willing to analyse the game with me. Wednesdays game was probably the only one where I felt he had a valid reason as it was getting near 11pm by the time we were over but the two others were finished long before the rest of the teams games were over so it was not like ...[text shortened]... ut of this opportunity then we might just as well have played a blitz for all the game is worth.
I am not sure the kind of analysis you are looking for would be possible in that kind of setting. You could get a few minutes of useful time, but the best analysis usually comes after the emotions and stress wear off and you have time to go step by step. I applaud you for at least approaching people about it. What would really be neat is if you could get some of the cooperative ones and find someplace online to critique each others games once you get home. Chessmaster has a "teach" option in its online options. I know a couple of guys online that I enjoy doing problem solving with that way.

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