OK tom tom and RC!
Why don' t we try to play the game, after the 13nth move of the White, in the open over here ?! You two, you choose the Black and play together, and I will pick the White. Or, in case you don't share the same opinion for the most efficient procedure, then each one of you may take the Black whilst I will face you both with the White;
here wait🙂
Originally posted by black beetleI already busted Black's position and gave you the winning line... Why would I play as black if I just proved that black is losing? I just disagree with 14.a4 so yes... I think Robbie and I will play against you after 14.a4.
OK tom tom and RC!
Why don' t we try to play the game, after the 13nth move of the White, in the open over here ?! You two, you choose the Black and play together, and I will pick the White. Or, in case you don't share the same opinion for the most efficient procedure, then each one of you may take the Black whilst I will face you both with the White;
here wait🙂
Originally posted by tomtom23214.Rfd1 fails due to 14. ...Rf8
Here is the line and the reasoning behind it, quite simple really and it shows how good white is in this position: 13...Be6 14.Rfd1! (threatens 15.cxd6 cxd6 16.c5) 14...Qd7 15.Rab1 (threatens Rxb7) 15...Rf8(can't play ...Qf6 because of Nxc7+!!) 16.Qa3! (threatens Rxb7 and cxd6) 16...Qc6(the only move to defend the pawn but unfortunately can't defend the ot ...[text shortened]... en move 5 for black to try to make improvements 5...fxe4 and 8...Ne7 are what I have in mind.
Originally posted by tomtom232No, tomtom. After 15.Qh5+ comes 15 ...g6 and the white Queen is stranded or forced to take the h7 pawn. If the latter, 16. ...Bxd5 17.cxd5 Qf6 18.Rd2 0-0-0 19.cxd6 cxd6 etc and the Black is off the hook; if the White tries 16.Qa3 then after 16. ...Qd7 the game is very sharp and the initiative of the White is diminished;
No, if 14...Rf8 then 15.Qh5+
Originally posted by black beetleIf 16...Qd7 then 17.Rab1 and we have transposed back into my line where white surely wins. If g6 then Qxh7 and white starts to exchange his temporary advantage for a permanent one in the form of pawns.... Besides, if 14.Rfd1 fails to 14...Rf8 then surely 14.a4 also does because this lessens the impact of Qa3 which is a commitment white need not make.
No, tomtom. After 15.Qh5+ comes 15 ...g6 and the white Queen is stranded or forced to take the h7 pawn. If the latter, 16. ...Bxd5 17.cxd5 Qf6 18.Rd2 0-0-0 19.cxd6 cxd6 etc and the Black is off the hook; if the White tries 16.Qa3 then after 16. ...Qd7 the game is very sharp and the initiative of the White is diminished;
Originally posted by tomtom232We disagree dear tomtom!
If 16...Qd7 then 17.Rab1 and we have transposed back into my line where white surely wins. If g6 then Qxh7 and white starts to exchange his temporary advantage for a permanent one in the form of pawns.... Besides, if 14.Rfd1 fails to 14...Rf8 then surely 14.a4 also does because this lessens the impact of Qa3 which is a commitment white need not make.
So let's check at first the line 14.a4 Rc8 15.Rfb1; whenever you want challenge me and we will start a rated game with your reply to 15.Rfb1.
On the other hand I am ready to play with the Black after 14.Rfd1.
Whenever you feel up to, challenge me for a rated game.
Have a nice w/e!
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Originally posted by black beetleI will definitely play as white after 14.Rfd1 as I already proved white is winning.
We disagree dear tomtom!
So let's check at first the line 14.a4 Rc8 15.Rfb1; whenever you want challenge me and we will start a rated game with your reply to 15.Rfb1.
On the other hand I am ready to play with the Black after 14.Rfd1.
Whenever you feel up to, challenge me for a rated game.
Have a nice w/e!
🙂
Originally posted by black beetleWe should just play here. I also assume you mean 14....Rc8 and no I don't think its over after 15.Rfb1 but I will play on as white after 14...Rf8 playing 15.Qh5+
Ok, I will try to draw or even win with the Black -the game is fixed, as you 'll see when you check your games.
Regarding the other line you proposed, with 14. ...Rf8, do we agree that it fails after 15.Rfb1?
Hey robbie c pal,
you a manager or what? You just throw in a position and then you have several people workin it ouf whilst you keep yaself by the swimminpool high on skoosh et all, oh pure dead brilliant🙂
Anyway, you said that my variation is mince, so ma heid's mince!?!! Here wait for a game with you regarding Mr Emms position! I take the White with my mince a4 variation and you will easily draw playing with the Black (and in addition you 'll be rewarded with some easy RHP points for free due to the temporary difference of our rank)!
Pure satisfaction in every move, Let us do -or die!
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