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john emms, attacking with 1.e4

john emms, attacking with 1.e4

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But 14.a4 Rf8 fails anyway, tomtom. I would play this line against you, or anybody else of our friends, with the Black at a rated game.

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Originally posted by black beetle
But 14.a4 Rf8 fails anyway, tomtom. I would play this line against you, or anybody else of our friends, with the Black at a rated game.
I suppose you mean 14.Rfd1 Rf8, unless you have changed your mind about your precious a4.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I suppose you mean 14.Rfd1 Rf8, unless you have changed your mind about your precious a4.
No, my eyes are too much red and I suffer of typos over a notebook, excuse me.

I have no precious moves, I am just seeking the truth, and I would anyway play 14.a4 coz I believe that this is the most fruitfull line for the White;

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Originally posted by black beetle
No, my eyes are too much red and I suffer of typos over a notebook, excuse me.

I have no precious moves, I am just seeking the truth, and I would anyway play 14.a4 coz I believe that this is the most fruitfull line for the White;
You disagree with logic? So far you have not attributed 14.a4 with any logical merits, yet fail to be swayed by the legions of logical arguments that have been cast in your direction.

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Originally posted by black beetle
No, my eyes are too much red and I suffer of typos over a notebook, excuse me.

I have no precious moves, I am just seeking the truth, and I would anyway play 14.a4 coz I believe that this is the most fruitfull line for the White;
Well, first of all, 14.a4 isn't a "line", it's just a move. Would you care to give us a sample line?

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Originally posted by MindWars
Well, first of all, 14.a4 isn't a "line", it's just a move. Would you care to give us a sample line?
At the first page of this thread I proposed 13. ...Be6 14.a4 Qd7 15.Rab1;

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Originally posted by black beetle
At the first page of this thread I proposed 13. ...Be6 14.a4 Qd7 15.Rab1;
And I refuted that with 15...Rf8 16.Qh5+ g6 17.Qg5 Bxd5 18.cxd5 Rf5 and white can't seem to break through.

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Originally posted by black beetle
At the first page of this thread I proposed 13. ...Be6 14.a4 Qd7 15.Rab1;
And what is your evaluation? What is the idea behind 14.a4 ?

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Originally posted by MindWars
And what is your evaluation? What is the idea behind 14.a4 ?
He says it is to deter queenside castling.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
And I refuted that with 15...Rf8 16.Qh5+ g6 17.Qg5 Bxd5 18.cxd5 Rf5 and white can't seem to break through.
But this is the reason why one has to play the game! The white Queen is not forced to take the black h pawn and presses with 16.Qe4. This argument can continue eternally if we just keep up talking.

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Originally posted by MindWars
And what is your evaluation? What is the idea behind 14.a4 ?
I repeat my opinion:
With a4 the White provokes the Black to void his 0-0-0 option, activates his a Rook, maintains the entasis at the centre, offers the Black the perfect baits ...BxNd5 and ...b6, therefore he forces the Black to play the pathetic ...a6 or the dangerous Qe7. Not bad for a simple pawn development. And here most of the players would choose to answer a4 with the "logical" Qe7;

If 16. ...Bf7 then 17.Nd3 Rb8 18.Rfd1 so the Black has to trade queens asap and suffer at a lost position, or he has to play 17. ...0-0, therefore after 18.Qxb7 dxc5 19.Rfd1 the White wins.

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Originally posted by black beetle
I repeat my opinion:
With a4 the White provokes the Black to void his 0-0-0 option, activates his a Rook, maintains the entasis at the centre, offers the Black the perfect baits ...BxNd5 and ...b6, therefore he forces the Black to play the pathetic ...a6 or the dangerous Qe7. Not bad for a simple pawn development. And here most of the players would cho ...[text shortened]... t position, or he has to play 17. ...0-0, therefore after 18.Qxb7 dxc5 19.Rfd1 the White wins.
I assume you mean ...Qd7. Black can answer with many moves besides ...Qd7, like ...Bf7, Rc8, and Rf8. 17.Nd3 isn't possible so here I am betting you mean 17.Ne3.

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Originally posted by tomtom232
I assume you mean ...Qd7. Black can answer with many moves besides ...Qd7, like ...Bf7, Rc8, and Rf8. 17.Nd3 isn't possible so here I am betting you mean 17.Ne3.
Right, 17.Ne3;

I see 14.a4 as Tarrasch stated: an "easy" move that is far more dangerous than any other "dangerous move, therefore in my opinion poses more problems to the Black than any other;

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Originally posted by black beetle
I repeat my opinion:
With a4 the White provokes the Black to void his 0-0-0 option, activates his a Rook, maintains the entasis at the centre, offers the Black the perfect baits ...BxNd5 and ...b6, therefore he forces the Black to play the pathetic ...a6 or the dangerous Qe7. Not bad for a simple pawn development. And here most of the players would cho t position, or he has to play 17. ...0-0, therefore after 18.Qxb7 dxc5 19.Rfd1 the White wins.
"I repeat my opinion"

Well I didn't ask for your "opinion"......we already get the idea that you want 14.a4 on your personalized license plate and your tombstone (hyperbole intended), but I was requesting a bit more from you. I specifically asked for your *evaluation*, which you have not done, so you need not repeat anything. It seems like perhaps you don't know what an evaluation is, so I'll explain it to you. An evaluation, regarding a chess position, is a statement about the condition of the position in terms of the winning or drawing potential. For example, if I evaluate a typical Lucina position, I will state that the side with the pawn has a decisive advantage. In a Philidor position, my evaluation is that the position is drawn (with correct defense of course).

Also, you haven't really given any analysis, just a lot of verbiage and wishful thinking. When doing an analysis, in chess, you try to give the critical moves for both sides.

You firstly state that 14.a4 inhibits some future ...0-0-0, but you don't give any explanation for that, or analysis of some line that includes ...0-0-0, or give a line indicating the consequences of Black not queenside castling. And 14.a4 hardly "activates" the White rook, which is already connected to his kingside rook, and ready to be developed to a central file, such as d1 or e1, which is the usual recipe for developing a rook. Of course 14.a4 does allow for the possibility of lufting the rook to a3, for a possible swinging over to the Black kingside at some point, but this plan seems very slow and dubious, so if there is a reasonable plan involving such a move, it certainly warrants analysis with some sample lines.

A cursory observation of this position reveals that Black has king safety and development issues, so any reasonable plan by White should involve active or forcing moves, not waiting moves like 14.a4, lest Black get time to complete his development.

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Originally posted by MindWars
"I repeat my opinion"

Well I didn't ask for your "opinion"......we already get the idea that you want 14.a4 on your personalized license plate and your tombstone (hyperbole intended), but I was requesting a bit more from you. I specifically asked for your *evaluation*, which you have not done, so you need not repeat anything. It seems like perhaps you do ...[text shortened]... moves, not waiting moves like 14.a3, lest Black get time to complete his development.
I didn't ask your opinion and I don't give a fig for your evaluation.

If you estimate that the Black is ok after 13. ...Be6 14.a4, challenge me with the Black at a rated game; then we will reach this position and you play with the Black.