11 Sep 07
Originally posted by Drew LI've done this before.
Mate with K + B + N vs. K
is it possible
Thanks
Drew
Thread 57677
11 Sep 07
Originally posted by Drew Lwoah! you asked about a game in progress....thats not good (for the record you don't want to do that. The mods won't go anything, but idiots will spam you for pages to come!)
I resigned, He had a rogue pawn as well but thanks for the replies
Drew
11 Sep 07
Originally posted by Mahoutit's not that hard if someone talks you through it, and you take a little time to work on it. and after you blitz it against fritz for a couple of days, you can do it in 20 seconds. when you know what you're doing there's even time to let the defender slip away once before you hit the 50 move limit.
Theoretically yes, but it's tricky to master and if the defending side can wriggle away from it a bit here and there then you might hit a draw under the 50 move rule.
I learned it from dragon fire's example, but here's also a post I did about it at the time. it's a detailed description of how to mate with KNB vs K:
http://burncastleburn.blogspot.com/2006/12/mating-with-knb-vs-k.html
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by endgamerThat's what I thought at first but I had a quick look at Drews games in progress before posting and couldn't see any with this ending.
woah! you asked about a game in progress....thats not good (for the record you don't want to do that. The mods won't go anything, but idiots will spam you for pages to come!)
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by wormwood20 seconds! I'll give the blitzing v computer method a try. BTW I love this ending as I find the mating net really pretty and it's an education in co-ordinating pieces... but the book "Silmans Endgame Course" doesn't even show it, saying it's to rare to bother with.
it's not that hard if someone talks you through it, and you take a little time to work on it. and after you blitz it against fritz for a couple of days, you can do it in 20 seconds. when you know what you're doing there's even time to let the defender slip away once before you hit the 50 move limit.
I learned it from dragon fire's example, but here's als ...[text shortened]... ate with KNB vs K:
http://burncastleburn.blogspot.com/2006/12/mating-with-knb-vs-k.html
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by endgamerI think he wanted to know if it is possible to mate so he resign or offer draw.
woah! you asked about a game in progress....thats not good (for the record you don't want to do that. The mods won't go anything, but idiots will spam you for pages to come!)
Think of the bright side 🙂
- LoLLe
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by endgamerHis question was NOT about a game in progress. Just a simple one about a type of endgame.
woah! you asked about a game in progress....thats not good (for the record you don't want to do that. The mods won't go anything, but idiots will spam you for pages to come!)
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by Mahoutreally? then I must wonder if silman ever taught it to himself. 🙂 that's a weird omission in an otherwise pretty comprehensive endgame book. and even if you'll run into it only once or twice in your life, I think it's still a part of the craft, and a very beneficial exercise in piece coordination and board vision.
20 seconds! I'll give the blitzing v computer method a try. BTW I love this ending as I find the mating net really pretty and it's an education in co-ordinating pieces... but the book "Silmans Endgame Course" doesn't even show it, saying it's to rare to bother with.
if you have an ICC account, there's a special KNB bot just for drilling the mate. chessmaster also has a special exercise for it.
in fact, I'm gonna go drill it a couple of times right now myself, as I'm sure I've become a bit rusty on it by now...
12 Sep 07
Originally posted by wormwoodMy thoughts exactly re the Silman book...had a quick look over my ICC account but can't find the KNB bot on (I'm using a Jin interface from my Mac)...any suggestions how I might find it?
really? then I must wonder if silman ever taught it to himself. 🙂 that's a weird omission in an otherwise pretty comprehensive endgame book. and even if you'll run into it only once or twice in your life, I think it's still a part of the craft, and a very beneficial exercise in piece coordination and board vision.
if you have an ICC account, there's a s ...[text shortened]... t a couple of times right now myself, as I'm sure I've become a bit rusty on it by now...