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Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
Kg7
Qe7+!
.... Kh6 possibly Rf6
.... Kg8 Rf8#

I think Black is utterly crushed here. Most of his pieces are Qside, and absolutely no help.

I think [b]Kg8.[/b]
wrong

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
If 19. ... Kg8 then follows 20. Qe7 (threatening 21. Rf8 mate) and how can black stop the mate short of giving away pieces a la Fritz (e.g. 20. .. Qe8, 21. QXQ+ .. Kg7, 22. Qf7+ .. Kh6, 23. Rf5 and mate next move or 20. .. QXg2+, 21. KXg2 and mate next move).

So 19. ... Kg7 is better when if 20. Qe7+ (20. Qe5+ is of course also playable) .. Kh6, 21. Q ...[text shortened]... the Q and must have excellent winning chances.

So black must play on hoping for 21. Rf6??[/b]
Rxg6 is check, so Nxe7 is not possible?

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Originally posted by dsmfire
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How polite and clever of you. Go into why or you just look stupid, Dragon Fire refuted my suggestions.

By the way, thanks Dragon Fire. 😀

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Originally posted by FlyingDutchman
Rxg6 is check, so Nxe7 is not possible?
True, but after 22. hXR black has 2R and B for his Q and white has nothing further to throw into the attack.

White needs to mate or make decisive material gains or else will end up having to resort to taking a draw by perpetual in all these lines.

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Good point.

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1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Rxf5 Qe6
16. Qg5+ Qg6 17. Rxf8+ Kxf8 18. Rf1+ Kg8

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
[fen]rnb3kr/pppp3p/6q1/6Q1/8/2N5/PPP3PP/5RK1[/fen]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Rxf5 Qe6
16. Qg5+ Qg6 17. Rxf8+ Kxf8 18. Rf1+ [b]Kg8[/b]
As DragonFire explained, I think 19. Qe7 wins.

19. Qe7 Qg7 20. Qe8+ Qf8 21. Qxf8#

19. Qe7 Qe8 20. Qxe8+ Kg7 21. Qf7+ Kh6 22. Qf6+ Kh5 23. Rf5+ Kg4 24. Qg5#

And as far as I can see, any other legal moves either flat out give the queen away (and thus simply postpone the checkmate), or completely ignore the threat of checkmate altogether.

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19. Qe7 and mate will soon follow.

Its been useful but not particularly difficult trying to analyse this game. Has made me think that investing a little time in a Muzio and playing it OTB might just get some good results for me.

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Qe7

I think the game is now done, as I see Kg8 was a bad move. But the game was fun, hopefully another one will start.

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I am off on holiday tonight so won't see whats up here for 11 more days but don't think I will miss much - its over now.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I am off on holiday tonight so won't see whats up here for 11 more days but don't think I will miss much - its over now.
I hope your opponents see you off by claiming many timeouts. He who laughs last ..... he he he 🙂

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
I am off on holiday tonight so won't see whats up here for 11 more days but don't think I will miss much - its over now.
BYE! Have a nice holiday, wherever you are going. 🙂 How will you live without chess?!

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1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Rxf5 Qe6
16. Qg5+ Qg6 17. Rxf8+ Kxf8 18. Rf1+ Kg8 19. Qe7

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
[fen]rnb3kr/ppppQ2p/6q1/8/8/2N5/PPP3PP/5RK1[/fen]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. Rxf5 Qe6
16. Qg5+ Qg6 17. Rxf8+ Kxf8 18. Rf1+ Kg8 19. [b]Qe7[/b]
Moving the queen to e8 or the f-file seems to be the only thing to postpone mate...but then the queen is lost and mate will soon follow anyway..I say the correct move is to resign.

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As far as I can see, Qe8 is the only hope now (and a futile one, at that). resign, for goodness' sake!

Qe8
Qxe8+ Kg7
Rf7+ Kh6

and Black is obviously lost. As in crushed.