After Qh5+, where does the K go? The choices are - e6,e7,f6,g7 and g8. The choice is bewildering, this is to me one of the hardest things to calculate over the board - which king move is best.
I started with 14..Kg8 -
15. Rxf5..Qe6 {the check on e3 is meaningless, after which the Q returns to defend f7 anyway}
16.Qg5+..Qg6 17.Rxf8+! the only way to keep the heat on} ..KxR
18.Rh1+ {yet another tough choice, where to put the K - ..Kg8 leads to mate after Qe7, ..Ke8 leads to mate after 19.Qe5+..Kd8 20.Nd5!! threatening mate with Qe7 or QxR on h8} soooo ..Kg7
19.Qe5+..Kh6 {once again Kg8 leads to mate, and Qf6 just loses the Q}
20.Rf4! {better than taking the rook on h8 as it keeps the pressure on - mate at h4}..Qg5
21.Rf6+..Kh5 {or ..Qg6 22.RxQ+ and the h8 rook still hangs}
22.Qe2+..Kh4 {or Qg4 23.Rf5+}
23.g3+..Kh3
24.Qg2+..Kg4 25.Qf3+..Kh3 and its a pretty cool mate in 2 g4+ followed by Qg3#.
If 14..Kg7 it is worse because he blocks his bishop on f8 leading to a forced mate
15.Qg5+..Kf7
16.Rxf5+..QxR
17.QxQ+..Ke8 {or Kg8 18.Rf1 and the Q will mate on f7}
18.Re1+..Be7
19.Qf6!..Nc6
20.Nd5!! again the least active piece has a role to play, and whatever black plays, Rxe7+ or Qxh8+ now wins
Thats all for me tonight, time to eat something...
Originally posted by FabianFnasI hoped for more, but only Ke7 makes it hard for white.
[fen]rnb2b1r/pppp1k1p/8/4qn1Q/8/2N5/PPP3PP/R4RK1
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. [b]Qh5+[/b]
Originally posted by FabianFnasI need to repeat my previous analysis here as I can still find nothing better for black (or white). All this seems pretty much forced and its just a matter of assessing the final position.
[fen]rnb2b1r/pppp1k1p/8/4qn1Q/8/2N5/PPP3PP/R4RK1[/fen]
The line continues 14. .... Ke7, 15. Qg5+ .. Ke8, 16. RXf5 .. Qe7 (black might have options here such as 16. ... Bc5+ but there doesn't seem anything else, 17. Kh1 .. Qe7 18. Re5 and we transpose back into the main line), 17. Re5 .. Kd8, 18. RXe7 .. BXe7, 19. Qg7 .. Re6 (19. ... Bc5+ can be interposed here again). I like this end position for white who has a Q for a R & 2Bs but can probably pick up a few pawns and has all the play. 20. Nd5 looks the best way to continue the attack when black can, at last, begin to get some pieces out. White plans Rf1 - Rf7 with an increase of pressure on the 7th rank and something must give.
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. RXf5.
It just seems lost for black now but maybe I missed something. I am playing in Portsmouth Congress this weekend so it will be Monday evening before I can look at the detail again, unfortunately.
Originally posted by FabianFnasWell, as far as I can see, the only way black can avoid the imminent checkmate will be to trade his queen for the white's rook, rather forced upon him or not. At first, I thought this trade might actually be good for black; he's simplifying the position with a material advantage. But black's complete and utter positional devistation cripples this potential advantage, and with white's other rook only a move away from the f- or d-file, black doesn't stand a chance.
[fen]rnb2bkr/pppp3p/8/4qR1Q/8/2N5/PPP3PP/R5K1[/fen]
1. e4 e5 2. f4 exf4 3. Nf3 g5 4. Bc4 g4 5. O-O gxf3
6. Qxf3 Qf6 7. e5 Qxe5 8. Bxf7+ Kxf7 9. d4 Qxd4+ 10. Be3 Qf6
11. Bxf4 Ne7 12. Nc3 Nf5 13. Be5 Qxe5 14. Qh5+ Kg8 15. [b]Rxf5[/b]
For my specific move choice, I'll say 15. ... Qg7 to keep him alive a few extra moves.