PAWN RIOT VS The Forum Move 15

That's the position I get to rather quickly after the rather random rook sacrifice. I love the threat of Rxh8+ and Ne6+ combining a sacrifice with a winning the queen with a mate threat!

If you want PAWNRIOT to have all the fun, go for b4, but the position will be giving black more headache than counterplay.

Originally posted by black beetle
Right🙂

No - really, I'm sure he has - this has (reasonably) recently become a critical position in the Dragon - as can be seen from NIC Yearbook 85

Originally posted by doodinthemood
19... Be8
20. hg hg
21. bh6 bh8
22. g5 Nd7
23. bf8 (lol)

White is having fun. Black is frolicking about the board in an embarassing display of incompetence.

Of course 22...Nd7 is a mistake. 22...Nh5 leaves White's bishop looking a little "incompetent" on h6, no?

I played Nd7 entirely because you had suggested that as the aim of this line.

22... Nh5
23. Rd2 Qc5
24. Qb2 Qxc4
25. C3
Attack over.

23...Nf4!?

23...Qc5 also looks completely fine to me man. For instance, 24. Qb2 Rc6! (Uh oh) 25. c3 (only move, 25. Ka1 Rb6 26. Qc3 Rb4 looks like trouble to me....) Rb6 26. Nb3 Qxc4 with a strong attack. The c3 pawn is a huge problem, and ...a5-a4 is a problem. Your king is a mess.

Originally posted by ptobler
No - really, I'm sure he has - this has (reasonably) recently become a critical position in the Dragon - as can be seen from NIC Yearbook 85

Wait my friend, I really agree with TONY and you and robbie and Paul, and I already voted 15. ...b4!

🙂

We're also following a Socko-Stocek game

I'll give it another day or so. If nothing else happens in the thread, I'll sort out the winner.

I've been looking at this line more and more lately, and keep finding great resources for both sides. For instance, after:

1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 g6 6. Be3 Bg7 7. f3 O-O 8. Qd2 Nc6 9. Bc4 Bd7 10. O-O-O Ne5 11. Bb3 Rc8 12. Kb1 Nc4 13. Bxc4 Rxc4 14. g4 b5 15. b3 b4 16. bxc4 bxc3 17. Qxc3 Qc7 18. h4

my intended line 18...Rc8 19. h5 Be8 (with the idea of ...Nd7-b6) leaves Black in a huge amount of trouble after 20. hxg6 hxg6 21. Bh6 Bh8 22. Nf5!

However there is another way for Black:

18...Rb8+ 19. Ka1 h5 20. g5 Ne8 21. Rb1 Rc8 22. Rb4 d5! 23. exd5 Nd6 24. c5 Nb5! and Black is okay.

There is an analogous line when White does away with 18. h4, and tries to force the knight to an inferior square (e8 blocks the rook, h5 is out of play, and d7 is occupied by another piece), which I believed to be critical for a long time, but now that I've found this line I think Black's fine:

18. g5!? Rb8+! 19. Ka1 Ne8 20. Rb1 Rc8 21. Rb4 d5! etc....

Before I was trying:

18. g5 Nh5 19. Ka1 Rc8 20. Rb1 Be6 21. Rb4 Bxc4 22. Rhb1, but it looks like White holds here without a lot of suffering.

Interesting position! 😀

15. ... b4 is the winner.