Originally posted by robbie carrobiePlan: Flip the board so that the pieces go astray, thus forcing the game to start anew.
Position from Sicilian Najdorf, (English attack, spit ding!) white to move
[fen]rnbqk2r/1p2ppb1/p2p1n1p/6p1/3NP3/2N3BP/PPP2PP1/R2QKB1R w KQkq - 0 11[/fen]
1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 d6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 a6 6. Be3 Ng4 7. Bg5 h6 8. Bh4
g5 9. Bg3 Bg7 10. h3 Nf6
it seems that white has a huge lead in development, looking at blacks queen side ...[text shortened]... g impractical. Any thoughts on the position or plans most appreciated
-kind regards Robbie.
Originally posted by tomtom232now my friend, let us take up our stance and deeply meditate upon this position, what are its merits and its potential pitfalls What are the subtle delicacies and beauties that only master Macpo may unveil to us if we petition him, failing that well ask one of the illustrious hackers to hack a way through the jungle to a clearing so that we can at least see clearly what is going on
Plan: Flip the board so that the pieces go astray, thus forcing the game to start anew.
Originally posted by tomtom232mmm, it is really quite interesting. the normal move is for white to play 11.Qf3
Well, i would castle kingside anyways and just be careful about losing that white bishop, then i would develop my pieces as quickly as possible keeping my open c file in mind. Once I had my pieces in the correct places I would march my pawns on an assault against the queenside while at the same time quelling whites attack on the kingside. Typical stuff.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieit seems to me that 14. ... Qxd1 is better than the move played.
mmm, it is really quite interesting. the normal move is for white to play 11.Qf3
(where else can the queen go?) and black follows with Qb6 putting pressure on the
d4 knight. however, white has had very good results with 11.Bc4 castling kingside
and using the lead in development to open the position up, check this game out.
Ivanchuk v Shi a6 Qh2 38. Be5 Qa2 39. Ra1 Qc2 40. a7 Qd3+ 41. Kf2 1-0[/pgn]
Originally posted by Big Orange CountryUhhh...
it seems to me that 14. ... Qxd1 is better than the move played.
Black is clearly very far behind in development, getting queens off the board could make this flaw less glaring. after white retakes, black goes up a knight for a pawn. Sure his position is completely and utterly chaotic. Still, chaos is easier to bear when queens are off the boar ...[text shortened]... s really late, obviously black is in check after Nxd6. Still, why not exd6? refutation please.
Originally posted by greenpawn34The position Robbie wanted to look at is the position that the GM's I referred to also played. And 11.Bc4 was already played before 2003 (e.g. by Kasparov), so was 11. ... Qb6. It is not DT who deviated from this but his black opponent.
I know the DT game and GM's differed but Robbie wanted this postion looked at ...
which did appear in the DT game.
His Bc4 was played after the GM game so perhaps back in 2003 Qb6
was under a theoretical cloud.
You agree White can 0-0 and let Rook go. So I'm a tempo up in the DT game.
Cannot see a 100% forced win but what a postion to ...[text shortened]...
to d1 or e1 NOT b1 what is going to do on b1?
Chase the Bishop back to where it wants to go.