But why have suspicion at all.
There is such a thing as a good chess player. They do exist.
Couple this with the fact it is not OTB chess so a good chess players
standard of play will rise to a standard they could not re-produce OTB.
There are a few C.C GM's and OTB GM's not many.
There are a lot more C.C.GM's who never made the title OTB.
The Mods here use a lot more than the simple match up to catch cheats.
They are good at what they do.
If you think someone is at it, raise an FTP and move on.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Excuse the pun, but do you really think everything is so black or white? No shades of grey?
But why have suspicion at all
You must have come across people that you think are "dodgy". The kind of person that you don't believe everything they say, but yet not always because you can prove otherwise. Isn't that the real world? And you don't think RHP has its fair share of such characters? So, yes, I think I'm entitled to be open minded and not blindly accept everything just because I have no hard proof to show otherwise.
Take the top 100 RHP players. Do you really believe they all fit into one of only two categories: totally innocent, or soon to be caught with blatant match up figures? If so, I think you're being too naive.
If you want certain players to know that you regard them as beyond suspicion, that's fair enough. But I want them to know that while I have no proof of cheating, I'm reserving my judgement. I'm sure there's at least one who not only revels in beating opponents unfairly, but probably enjoys fooling people in the forums even more. If you think it's impossible, cheer them on. But I won't.
Hi V.
"I'm sure there's at least one who not only revels in beating opponents unfairly,
but probably enjoys fooling people in the forums even more. "
I wonder, do they really enjoy using a computer to beat an opponent.
I'd guess everytime they use one they know the risk they run.
(the Mods are good).
But what can they do? They cannot stop.
You can become a good player but not go good to weak.
A lot just stop playing and drop off the radar.
I'll PM you.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Can a cheater be caught who has hundreds of non cheating games here but then has one game played through a box? Would that one game stick out enough for the mods to even get on their radar? I would think it would just be one more win out of a sea of non box wins.
Hi V.
"I'm sure there's at least one who not only revels in beating opponents unfairly,
but probably enjoys fooling people in the forums even more. "
I wonder, do they really enjoy using a computer to beat an opponent.
I'd guess everytime they use one they know the risk they run.
(the Mods are good).
But what can they do? They cannot stop. ...[text shortened]... but not go good to weak.
A lot just stop playing and drop off the radar.
I'll PM you.
Originally posted by sonhouseNo, I'm pretty sure they would not get caught but lets keep that on the DL.
Can a cheater be caught who has hundreds of non cheating games here but then has one game played through a box? Would that one game stick out enough for the mods to even get on their radar? I would think it would just be one more win out of a sea of non box wins.
Originally posted by greenpawn34So if the "mods are good" then why would anyone need to stop playing and drop off the radar? You have said that the "mods are good" twice then make statements that don't affirm that position? Why the contradiction?
But why have suspicion at all.
There is such a thing as a good chess player. They do exist.
Couple this with the fact it is not OTB chess so a good chess players
standard of play will rise to a standard they could not re-produce OTB.
There are a few C.C GM's and OTB GM's not many.
There are a lot more C.C.GM's who never made the title OTB.
Th ...[text shortened]... t not go good to weak.
A lot just stop playing and drop off the radar.
I'll PM you.
Originally posted by kopatovIf I were to stop playing and "drop off the radar" what would that have to do with the mods being good or not? If I were a cheat and I were to "drop off the radar" that would affirm the position that the mods are good... you don't make any sense, Strawman.
So if the "mods are good" then why would anyone need to stop playing and drop off the radar? You have said that the "mods are good" twice then make statements that don't affirm that position? Why the contradiction?
Originally posted by tomtom232Greenpawn is the one making contradictory statements. For example he says "the mods the good" at least twice in this thread alone.
If I were to stop playing and "drop off the radar" what would that have to do with the mods being good or not? If I were a cheat and I were to "drop off the radar" that would affirm the position that the mods are good... you don't make any sense, Strawman.
See Thread 141785 for example.
Hi Kopatov.
It's the fact they know the mods are good and soon their attention
will switch to them that does it. They cannot suddenly start shedding points.
That attracts attention. It's why many of them..not all...are non-posters
and no profile. One slip in the chess forum, one lie in their profile and they
are doomed.
They may have been caught in the past. Many come back....
Also utter boredom must eventually seep in. It all sounds joyless to me.
Who knows, perhaps a twinge of conscience. They leave that account
and start again clean. (perhaps even use that account once or twice to beat
themselves and give their new account a lift up the ratings. So what if the good
guy is banned. It's not them anymore.)
It's a sad affair and I doubt if it will ever be wiped out.
I think my suggestion years ago that everyone must reveal their true selves
in a PM to the Mods once they go over 2000 or 2100 would go a long way
to restoring faith. But it got few supporters.
Make up your mind GP. You claim that the "mods are good x2", then you stated "Of course if you are interested in compuer v computer games then go to the
front page of the players table and........ "
Early on in this thread you launched a bizarre defence even claiming that a database of saved box analysis is valid under the TOS.
I would have presumed there would be some "method" in all this "staggering" around.
Originally posted by greenpawn34Interesting thought. When you say it got few supporters I presume this was through the forums? I imagine such a thread would have been hijacked quite quickly. Turkeys don't vote for an early Christmas.....
I think my suggestion years ago that everyone must reveal their true selves
in a PM to the Mods once they go over 2000 or 2100 would go a long way
to restoring faith. But it got few supporters.
Hi kopatov
I hate having to say this......My front page players statement ...."It was a joke..."
I even added the wee smiley thing.
Obviously this passed you by.
I cannot blame or fault you for having a lack of a sense of humour.
We are all different.
The good OTB players on here who saw it (most of them don't bother to read
the forum...too many Trolls) would have either grimaced or nodded.
I know who they are and they know the wee gag was not aimed at them.
If you are going twist every 'joke' I've ever posted on here then you will have
plenty of ammo.
I gave my reason why I want to a see box v box game.
What that has got to do with anything on here I don't know.
Are you are going to go over all my previous posts from other threads
picking out wee bits and drop them in here. Sounds like fun, go for it.
"....database of saved box analysis is valid under the TOS."
Nobody has come back and said I'm wrong. (except you...and I suspect you
know I'm right.)
In your tiny world it is OK to use a book of printed box analysis but
not box anlayse without a book. It's a joke right?
This twisting of words to suit a debate is now getting tedious.
I thought it was joke at first but you are telling the same joke
over and over and over again.
I was going to say I thinkl it best if you do not read anything I say.
But then I would not have the fun of leading you around the garden path
and watching fall into pot hole after pot hole.
I often take an opposite stance on the forum. Someone has to.
One month I'll agree, next month I won't. It's like Chess.
One month I'm White, next I'm Black.
I'd love to play you at chess, you fall into every forum trap, I bet you are the same OTB.
And you had better not look at this.....