Yes but OTB (after you have been playing for 4 months) your opponent does not take his annual vacation either.I agree there is a difference between time outs OTB and here on RHP and some people can exploit the difference to their advantage as you descibe. But I can't think of a simple rule to prevent this.
Should I lose on a timeout when I go on vacation when my opponent can only be bothered to move every 7 days and I move within 1 hour of him therefore we have only made 16 moves (he has taken 3 months 21 days thinking time and I have had less than 7 days) but now I have 14 days leave ...[text shortened]... g slowly not me.
Perhaps it was always a ploy as he knew sooner or later I would go on leave.
Originally posted by MahoutSame difference to me.
In OTB, in a tournament, when the flag drops, as you say, the game is over and no one disputes this. When a skull appears on RHP you can chose to allow your opponent more time if you wish. Nothing wrong with treating the skull as the end of the game, but people can and do exercise a personal preference in this area.
If I see the flag drops I can either take the win or i can think like this: "I would rather win the game on the board than win otherwise. It's about honour on I don't want it to be maculated. So I play on and win more honorly when and if i win eventually." HAve you ever heard such thoughts? (Telepatic or not.)
No, of course not. Karpov won the second game 1972 in Reykjavik aginst Fisher. And Fisher didn't whine about it.
Nor should anyone here at RHP whine (Unless the vacation flag is properly set!)
Originally posted by FabianFnasKarpov never played a match vs Fischer,that was Spassky.
Same difference to me.
If I see the flag drops I can either take the win or i can think like this: "I would rather win the game on the board than win otherwise. It's about honour on I don't want it to be maculated. So I play on and win more honorly when and if i win eventually." HAve you ever heard such thoughts? (Telepatic or not.)
No, of course not. K ...[text shortened]... about it.
Nor should anyone here at RHP whine (Unless the vacation flag is properly set!)
Fischer refused to play the 2nd game.Would be kinda silly to whine about a loss when it's you who refuses to play,don't you think?
Originally posted by FabianFnasuhhhhhh...that was spassky that fischer played in Rekjavic. Fischer lost the first game through a crude blunder, then didn't show up for the second game and let his clock run down.
Same difference to me.
If I see the flag drops I can either take the win or i can think like this: "I would rather win the game on the board than win otherwise. It's about honour on I don't want it to be maculated. So I play on and win more honorly when and if i win eventually." HAve you ever heard such thoughts? (Telepatic or not.)
No, of course not. K ...[text shortened]... about it.
Nor should anyone here at RHP whine (Unless the vacation flag is properly set!)
Don't know if it was ever brought up in site ideas, but instead of putting up the vacation flag all players could be allocated, say 30 days of holiday every year. That would allow players to postpone all their current games at any time.
I know it would be more difficult to plan tournaments such as the annual Championship, but it would protect players from being timed out if they are on REAL vacation.
Originally posted by Sicilian SmaugSure it's against the rules and should not be done, but the conundrum was in the considering "theoretically" the use of an engine to assist you in being fair. If the "exercise" did aid your continued game (as it might if your opponent happened to chose the same line as the engine) it would only be a game you had been entitled to win anyway.
That would violate 3(b)
But taking the time out and [b] then checking with an engine would be fine.[/b]
Originally posted by cludiIt's brought up at least once a fortnight. And planning ahead will also protect players from timeouts.
Don't know if it was ever brought up in site ideas, but instead of putting up the vacation flag all players could be allocated, say 30 days of holiday every year. That would allow players to postpone all their current games at any time.
I know it would be more difficult to plan tournaments such as the annual Championship, but it would protect players from being timed out if they are on REAL vacation.
Originally posted by MahoutIf it is against the rules then by definition it is unfair.
Sure it's against the rules and should not be done, but the conundrum was in the considering "theoretically" the use of an engine to assist you in being fair. If the "exercise" did aid your continued game (as it might if your opponent happened to chose the same line as the engine) it would only be a game you had been entitled to win anyway.
Originally posted by XanthosNZPlanning ahead is not always possible. You start a 7/7 game knowing you have 14 days vacation in six months time but expecting to finish by then because you move fast.
It's brought up at least once a fortnight. And planning ahead will also protect players from timeouts.
After 6 months (26 weeks) you are on move 26. Your opponent has used all his time every move so he used 26 weeks, while you used 26 hours.
You set your vacation flag and leave a note on exactly when you will be back. You get back 14 days and 2 hours later. Surprise, surprise! This time your opponent did not wait 7 days to reply but replies instantly and 1 second after the skull appears claimed a time out in a totally lost position.
Is it just me or is this fair? In my opinion it is a clear abuse even if not against the TOS!
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Originally posted by XanthosNZAgreed. I was never timed out and I don't plan to in the future.
It's brought up at least once a fortnight.
And planning ahead will also protect players from timeouts.
Mobiles, internet café's, hotspots, you name it. Nowadays it takes really special circumstances to not be able to move in time
Originally posted by cludiI don't think so. We're not only talking of urban areas. We are talking about everyplaces around the globe.
Agreed. I was never timed out and I don't plan to in the future.
Mobiles, internet café's, hotspots, you name it. Nowadays it takes really special circumstances to not be able to move in time
We're also talk about time of the day.
Soon I'll be going with my work to a seminar of one week duration. I have to attend to the meetings all day, and when I'm free the local library is closed (is has only open tuesday and thursday between 11.00 and 16.00. There is no way that I can get hold of a connection. Ture.
Where is there a connection from Ludgo, Sörmland? Anyone?
Can I plan ahead? No, I can't. I'm presently in a tournament, round 3 started 6 month ago with 1 day thinking time. Sorry, not possible.
Vacancies is the weak spot of RHP, IMHO.
Originally posted by cludiAnyone wanna meet me in Aala Park for a game of chess? I'm in the middle Honolulu today!
Agreed. I was never timed out and I don't plan to in the future.
Mobiles, internet café's, hotspots, you name it. Nowadays it takes really special circumstances to not be able to move in time