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Rahim, not trying to steal your thread, but here's an interesting position from a game I just played that seems to fit in well with one of the themes.
My opponent blundered and played 11...Ng6?? in this position - why is that a blunder?
Also, what should black have played instead to stay as close to white as possible.
In case people wonder how it got to that position:
LMAO, I posted the game but that gives away the solution.
Originally posted by cmsMasterFor a couple seconds I thought the FEN posted was the puzzle 😛. Anyways,
Rahim, not trying to steal your thread, but here's an interesting position from a game I just played that seems to fit in well with one of the themes.
[fen]rn1qk2r/pbp1npp1/1p2p2p/6NQ/3PP3/2PBB3/P4PPP/R3K2R b KQkq - 0 11[/fen]
My opponent blundered and played 11...Ng6?? in this position - why is that a blunder?
Also, what should black have played ...[text shortened]... onder how it got to that position:
LMAO, I posted the game but that gives away the solution.
12. Nxe6
Black should have castled or played 11...g6. The position still looks pretty rough for him though...
Originally posted by Ramiri15Yep, good, Nxe6! fxe6 Qxg6+ and it's done - I traded and won with +2 pawn endgame. O-O is better than g6 though.
For a couple seconds I thought the FEN posted was the puzzle 😛. Anyways,
12. Nxe6
Black should have castled or played 11...g6. The position still looks pretty rough for him though...
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Originally posted by Ramiri15But after castling I think there is an interesting continuation. 11. .. 0-0 12. Nxe6 fxe 13. Qg6 Kh8 14. Qxh6 and white can tear up black's kingside. I still couldn't find a win, but in case of emergency, there is a perpetual. I think I'd play that if it was OTB. Anyway, I'm sleepy now, so I'll look at this position a bit more tomorrow. Perhaps this post contains flaws as well.
For a couple seconds I thought the FEN posted was the puzzle 😛. Anyways,
12. Nxe6
Black should have castled or played 11...g6. The position still looks pretty rough for him though...
EDIT: Yep, I found a flaw. Everything would be fine if there wasn't a pawn on g6. But maybe I can play 13. Bxh6 but it seems to me that too few pieces are left for an attack, so it's just a draw.
Originally posted by kbaumenI think regardless of what black does there is a viable attack. Cms, post the game so we can see how the position was reached.
But after castling I think there is an interesting continuation. 11. .. 0-0 12. Nxe6 fxe 13. Qg6 Kh8 14. Qxh6 and white can tear up black's kingside. I still couldn't find a win, but in case of emergency, there is a perpetual. I think I'd play that if it was OTB. Anyway, I'm sleepy now, so I'll look at this position a bit more tomorrow. Perhaps this post contains flaws as well.
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Originally posted by Ramiri15[Event "Rated game, 20m + 0s"]
I think regardless of what black does there is a viable attack. Cms, post the game so we can see how the position was reached.
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2007.06.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSMaster"]
[Black "Big Blunder"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A40"]
[WhiteElo "1609"]
[BlackElo "1662"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[EventDate "2007.06.13"]
[TimeControl "1200"]
1. d4 {2} b6 {4} 2. c4 {2} Bb7 {1} 3. Nc3 {1} d5 {1} 4. cxd5 {13} Bxd5 {1} 5.
e4 {1} Bb7 {3} 6. Nf3 {2} e6 {5} 7. Be3 {30} Bb4 {1} 8. Bd3 {47} Bxc3+ {2} 9.
bxc3 {2} Ne7 {1} 10. Ng5 {16} h6 {5} 11. Qh5 {72} Ng6 {12} 12. Nxe6 {94} fxe6 {
10} 13. Qxg6+ {2} Kf8 {1} 14. Qxe6 {60} Nd7 {2} 15. Bc4 {24} Qe7 {13} 16. Qxe7+
{41} Kxe7 {1} 17. Bd5 {4} Bxd5 {1} 18. exd5 {1} Nf6 {1} 19. c4 {14} Ne4 {1} 20.
O-O {40} Rhf8 {1} 21. c5 {21} bxc5 {2} 22. dxc5 {1} c6 {6} 23. dxc6 {7} Rac8 {4
} 24. Rab1 {10} Rxc6 {12} 25. Rb7+ {2} Ke6 {9} 26. Rxa7 {9} g5 {5} 27. Ra5 {15}
Rb8 {7} 28. a4 {11} Rb2 {13} 29. Rb5 {6} Rc2 {7} 30. Rb6 {5} Kd7 {12} 31. Rxc6
{4} Kxc6 {1} 32. Rc1 {48} Rxc1+ {10} 33. Bxc1 {2} Nxc5 {1} 34. a5 {5} Nb3 {10}
35. Bb2 {17} h5 {13} 36. Bc3 {5} g4 {3} 37. h3 {4} Kb5 {5} 38. hxg4 {2} hxg4 {1
} 39. Kh2 {1} Kc4 {6} 40. Be1 {9} Kd3 {11} 41. Kg3 {3} Ke2 {1} 42. Bb4 {8} Nd4
{5} 43. Kxg4 {14} Kxf2 {3} 44. Bc5 {1} Ke3 {4} 45. Bxd4+ {1} Kxd4 {1} 46. a6 {1
} Kc5 {Big Blunder resigns (Lag: Av=0.69s, max=2.3s) 1} 1-0
O-O is better than g6 - but still not great for black. But why is O-O better than g6? Don't look too deep into tactics, just give me a line that you would play as white about three moves deep after each - it has more to do with positional chess than tactical chess really.
Originally posted by cmsMasterYou know what, it's not really fair for me to have you tell me which one is better. But here was the point I was trying to make, after 11...g6? 12.Qh3! black's really tied up - castling is definitely out of the question and black is pretty well beat. After 11...O-O 12.Nf3 Nbd7 black's definitely worse, but can at least play on.
[Event "Rated game, 20m + 0s"]
[Site "Main Playing Hall"]
[Date "2007.06.13"]
[Round "?"]
[White "CMSMaster"]
[Black "Big Blunder"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A40"]
[WhiteElo "1609"]
[BlackElo "1662"]
[PlyCount "92"]
[EventDate "2007.06.13"]
[TimeControl "1200"]
1. d4 {2} b6 {4} 2. c4 {2} Bb7 {1} 3. Nc3 {1} d5 {1} 4. cxd5 {13} Bxd5 {1} 5.
e4 {1} ...[text shortened]... - it has more to do with positional chess than tactical chess really.