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Originally posted by no1marauder
Math 101: you can't go from 1194 to 1696 in approximately 30 games without your performance in those 30 games being far above 1700 esp. when you played hundreds of game before that.

I prefer you not voluntarily leave the site. I'm in no hurry to finish our games.
The only way I am likely to leave the site, is voluntarily. You're a proven liar.

All bar two of the games in question were again players rated under 1700 and most rated under 1300. Your 'argument' doesn't hold water

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Originally posted by eldragonfly
No actually it is rooted in simple maths.
Thanks for your wisdom. Please show me the mathematical calculation used to derive said figure and I shall never cross your path again

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Originally posted by exigentsky
He might not be stupid but I can base my opinion of him only from what he has shown on this forum. I'm not one for faith..it still follows the same formula..
and the only "formula" that i use is being capable of independent thinking and being capable of rational thought. Oh and i don't overgeneralize to the Nth degree, i don't add derogatory childish insults and thoughtless commentary to prove and/or evade a simple point, and i don't play the witless unobjective fool to impress others. Simple.

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Originally posted by Mad Mac MacMad
The only way I am likely to leave the site, is voluntarily. You're a proven liar.

All bar two of the games in question were again players rated under 1700 and most rated under 1300. Your 'argument' doesn't hold water
We shall see.

You hadn't shown the ability to consistently beat 1200-1300s before April 2007, never mind players like Marko Krale and MAXALF.

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What if the slope is downwards, like mine? This must mean that I am really honest, but crap at chess.

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Originally posted by exigentsky
He might not be stupid but I can base my opinion of him only from what he has shown on this forum. I'm not one for faith.

BTW: I've read expressions like "unfortunate statements are beyond redemption" and many others probably a dozen times. It is extremely predictable and context independent. Even logical fallacies, which are highly dependent on conte ...[text shortened]... lp-addiction.com/eliza/ While this may be farfetched, it is completely feasible.
I think eldragontwit has failed the Turing test. i can tell the difference between his largely meaningless twaddle and the posts of other users on this site.

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Either way we shall see, but if this case doesn't present sufficient evidence to satisfy the Game Mods (assuming they still exist), then I fear that many blatant cheats will not qualify for a banning under present investigative procedures. To me, a 500 rating point jump in a month after years of a relatively static rating history (1100s-1200s) coupled with a jump in engine match ups of over 30% from previously WON games is "overwhelming evidence".

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Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Can I ask you a question, MacMad?
What on Earth possessed you to play like this against a -1000 in a game finished just over a year ago, when you were rated 1166?
Game 3188398
[pgn]
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.playtheimmortalgame.com"]
[Date "2007.02.17"]
[EndDate "2007.02.19"]
[Round "?"]
[White "AURORALST"]
[Black "Mad Mac their chess & your insights could be extremely helpful to them.
🙂
We can all do badly against lower rated players.

In Game 5149098 I am hardly winning against a player rated half of my grade after 38 moves.

Maybe I was a little too complacent expecting an easy win but he has not set a foot wrong and although with a little effort I could no doubt find some better moves I can't really find any serious mistakes there.

No comments on this game in progress please but I show it merely to indicate that defeat against much lower rated opponents is indeed possible.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
We can all do badly against lower rated players.

In Game 5149098 I am hardly winning against a player rated half of my grade after 38 moves.

Maybe I was a little too complacent expecting an easy win but he has not set a foot wrong and although with a little effort I could no doubt find some better moves I can't really find any serious mistake ...[text shortened]... I show it merely to indicate that defeat against much lower rated opponents is indeed possible.
But his profile seems to contain some honest info which might explain the higher than expected playing strength:

"Right now I think my playing strength is 1500-1699. I've made it up to 1700 a couple times but that was because of a couple timeouts.
My goal is to make it up to 1800 (although I don't see it happening any time soon).

** I will not be joining any "under 1500" banded tournaments. **"

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Originally posted by Mahout
But his profile seems to contain some honest info which might explain the higher than expected playing strength:

"Right now I think my playing strength is 1500-1699. I've made it up to 1700 a couple times but that was because of a couple timeouts.
My goal is to make it up to 1800 (although I don't see it happening any time soon).

** I will not be joining any "under 1500" banded tournaments. **"
True, he has indeed been up to 1700, 400 or so games ago. Guess I should have checked his past history carefully before assuming I was playing a patzer, but even so the results will show I drew with an 1100 if it comes to that.

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Quite a suspicious regress by the way...As if Anand's OTB rating falls down to 2000 😀 By the way this guy has been rated even 800-900, according to his stats...The antirecord seems to be 779 😀 😀 😀

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
We can all do badly against lower rated players.

In Game 5149098 I am hardly winning against a player rated half of my grade after 38 moves.

Maybe I was a little too complacent expecting an easy win but he has not set a foot wrong and although with a little effort I could no doubt find some better moves I can't really find any serious mistake ...[text shortened]... I show it merely to indicate that defeat against much lower rated opponents is indeed possible.
At the time the game was played February 17-19, 2007, Auroralist wasn't rated that much lower than Mac - 920 v. 1166. Mac's dramatic rise in the ratings came two months later, after years of being an 1100-1200 rated player.

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Originally posted by Dragon Fire
Its a no brainer really.

I won't have to read any more pointless inflamatory forum posts by User 37797.

[b]Who needs another reason?
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I can think of about 30 more.

It is too bad that mindless posting my morons ruins what is an otherwise good chess site.

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