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  1. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    26 Mar '18 21:46
    Greetings players and fellow patzers

    For those who have never played this opening before,
    I'll give you fair warning that it's not for the faint-hearted!
    It is, however, a lot of fun and very rewarding should it pay off.

    The Traxler Gambit follows the moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5

    Here, with White to move, which do you prefer?
    5.Nxf7
    5.Bxf7+
    5.(Other)

    In the following game, Nxf7 was played.
    This decision gave the initiative away, consequently leading to a prolonged attack against White's King.
    From that moment on, many of the moves are actually rather forced and have been seen before,
    see annotations for more information.



    I cite the following link as a source of inspiration for the making of this game:
    http://www.chessgames.com/perl/chesscollection?cid=1008357
    This is a useful list of games to play through and realise this gambit's attacking potential.

    Let me know what you think of this opening.
    Have you played it before?
    Where are the improvements for White?

    Cheers,
    ~64
  2. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    26 Mar '18 22:54 / 1 edit
    Originally posted by @64squaresofpain
    Greetings players and fellow patzers

    For those who have never played this opening before,
    I'll give you fair warning that it's not for the faint-hearted!
    It is, however, a lot of fun and very rewarding should it pay off.

    The Traxler Gambit follows the moves 1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bc4 Nf6 4.Ng5 Bc5
    [fen]r1bqk2r/pppp1ppp/2n2n2/2b1p1N1/2B1P3/8 ...[text shortened]... this opening.
    Have you played it before?
    Where are the improvements for White?

    Cheers,
    ~64
    My gut reaction was to force the tissue with Bxf7+ then deal with black's threat. At the very least black loses the ability to castle and allows white to castle immediately next move.
  3. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    31 Mar '18 00:29
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    My gut reaction was to force the tissue with Bxf7+ then deal with black's threat. At the very least black loses the ability to castle and allows white to castle immediately next move.
    Bxf7 does seem better, but even then the Traxler does seem quite sound, as far as gambits are concerned.

    Wouldn't you agree that this is one of the more sound/playable gambits available?
  4. Subscriber sonhouse
    Fast and Curious
    31 Mar '18 01:17
    Originally posted by @64squaresofpain
    Bxf7 does seem better, but even then the Traxler does seem quite sound, as far as gambits are concerned.

    Wouldn't you agree that this is one of the more sound/playable gambits available?
    Don't see why it would not be playable for white since black no longer has castling so is stuck trying to develop the kingside rook white gets to castle immediately if so desired.

    Looks to me like an early strategic advantage. Black would be tilted on edge trying to complete development.
  5. Subscriber 64squaresofpain On Vacation
    The drunk knight
    01 Apr '18 20:54
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    Don't see why it would not be playable for white since black no longer has castling so is stuck trying to develop the kingside rook white gets to castle immediately if so desired.

    Looks to me like an early strategic advantage. Black would be tilted on edge trying to complete development.
    That's not to say that Black wouldn't have any winning chances at all after Bxf7+.

    With the most correct play, maybe White has no problems,
    I mean there must be a reason why you don't see GM's playing this too regularly...

    I have, however, had a win on the Black side vs. 5.Bxf7
    nearly 2 years ago here on RHP vs. an opponent whom I still have a 1-3 losing record against.

    So of course I'm quite happy to show the one win

    No annotations this time, though.
    I believe my opponent made a mistake early on, perhaps returning the Bishop to f7 on move 9, but I haven't checked this.

  6. Subscriber Ragwortonline
    Ex Duris Gloria
    02 Apr '18 17:12
    The trouble with playing the Traxler is that in some faraway master tournament white will play a line that snuffs out all the counterplay and dump Black in a lost ending. Someone like Andrew Martin will come along and make a short you-tube video and that's all you see in online games for years after...

    YouTube

    Start from about 2'00
  7. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    05 May '18 03:38 / 1 edit
    *edit*
  8. Subscriber Tom Wolsey
    Aficionado of Prawns
    05 May '18 03:39
    Originally posted by @64squaresofpain
    Bxf7 does seem better, but even then the Traxler does seem quite sound, as far as gambits are concerned.

    Wouldn't you agree that this is one of the more sound/playable gambits available?


    The Budapest is right up there or even more solid. The best and most fun games I've ever played are with the Cochran Gambit and then the Traxler. At a pub, I watched my Uncle, drinking heavily, get a draw vs. GM Boris Kogan using the Budapest.
  9. 05 May '18 12:28 / 1 edit
    When Karpov met it he played the 5.Bxf7+ line.

    A. Karpov - A. Beliavsky, Team Tournament, Soviet Union, 1983.

  10. Subscriber ZorroTheFoxonline
    RHP MostActivePlayer
    24 May '18 17:05
    Excellent! Thanks for the analysis!
  11. Subscriber ZorroTheFoxonline
    RHP MostActivePlayer
    25 May '18 00:06
    Again Excellent! Thank you!
  12. 25 May '18 16:20
    I ove watching games by great players. The game seems so simple and graceful...then I look at my games.