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    19 Oct '08 07:592 edits
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    How anyone chooses to select people for their ignore list is their own business. I'm a bit more concerned about an open accusation in the public forums against someone's character. I'd much like to see some evidence to support that attack, or see it recanted and/or removed.
    He have showed his character enought. Few examples:

    Thread 96523
    Thread 101343
    Thread 97267

    After his texts in these threads he should not be surprised if he is ignored by someone.

    Taking into account so called "Privacy policy" I would not quote his PM`s and in-game messages in which he shows absolute lack of social skills - absolute misunderstanding why someone could dislike him after these texts in public forums.
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    19 Oct '08 08:10
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    Is this accusation founded?
    it's based on a thread that he had started in the chess only forums and then was removed to a private forum (OTB chess club forum).
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    19 Oct '08 08:13
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    How anyone chooses to select people for their ignore list is their own business. I'm a bit more concerned about an open accusation in the public forums against someone's character. I'd much like to see some evidence to support that attack, or see it recanted and/or removed.
    He posted a thread linking people from non English speaking countries to cheating. I am not saying that is racists because it isn't* but that may be what the accusation is about.



    *racism is about color of skin more or less. This case would seem to be nationalism or lingualism.
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    19 Oct '08 08:15
    Originally posted by doodinthemood
    It's not an attack, so much as saying "you're capitalist" or "you're socialist" or "you're pro-abortion" would be an attack. It could be accurate, or inaccurate.

    Calling it an attack is discriminating against racists by assuming them to be worse people than others.
    Your argument here is completely nonsense. It isn't even amusing.
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    19 Oct '08 08:18
    Originally posted by Korch
    He have showed his character enought. Few examples:

    Thread 96523
    Thread 101343
    Thread 97267

    After his texts in these threads he should not be surprised if he is ignored by someone.

    Taking into account so called "Privacy policy" I would not quote his PM`s and in-game messages in which he shows absolute lack o ...[text shortened]... - absolute misunderstanding why someone could dislike him after these texts in public forums.
    I don't take any issue with you or anyone else saying someone is rude. I don't have any patience for rude behavior either, even though I'm sure others probably think I'm a jerk on rare occasions. My question was directed at the specific issue of him being called a racist. That is something different altogether.
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    19 Oct '08 08:19
    Originally posted by diskamyl
    it's based on a thread that he had started in the chess only forums and then was removed to a private forum (OTB chess club forum).
    This is something that can't be verified then?
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    19 Oct '08 08:21
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    He posted a thread linking people from non English speaking countries to cheating. I am not saying that is racists because it isn't* but that may be what the accusation is about.



    *racism is about color of skin more or less. This case would seem to be nationalism or lingualism.
    I remember seeing something about that. The original assertion (that non-english speakers are more likely to cheat) isn't racist at all. There are people of all races, including caucasians, who speak languages other than English. It is also obvious that there are people of all races who speak English as their primary language. Race was not a factor in the original statement, even if the assertion had no basis.
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    19 Oct '08 08:23
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    This is something that can't be verified then?
    It doesn't matter really, the thread in question had nothing to do with racism like I said above.
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    19 Oct '08 08:28
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    I remember seeing something about that. The original assertion (that non-english speakers are more likely to cheat) isn't racist at all. There are people of all races, including caucasians, who speak languages other than English. It is also obvious that there are people of all races who speak English as their primary language. Race was not a factor in the original statement, even if the assertion had no basis.
    I am well aware of this fact. My point was that some people confuse racism with other things.
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    19 Oct '08 08:29
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    It doesn't matter really, the thread in question had nothing to do with racism like I said above.
    That's precisely why it does matter. If that thread was the basis for accusing him of being a racist, then the accusation is unbased and slanderous. Calling him a racist simply because he is rude is wrong. You can't publicly say someone is a drug dealer just because you catch them shoplifting, the two are unrelated.
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    19 Oct '08 08:30
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    I am well aware of this fact. My point was that some people confuse racism with other things.
    It appears that you and I agree on this.
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    19 Oct '08 08:341 edit
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    That's precisely why it does matter. If that thread was the basis for accusing him of being a racist, then the accusation is unbased and slanderous. Calling him a racist simply because he is rude is wrong. You can't publicly say someone is a drug dealer just because you catch them shoplifting, the two are unrelated.
    I meant that it doesn't really matter if the existence of said thread can be verified or not. I agree, calling someone a racist without facts is wrong.
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    19 Oct '08 08:401 edit
    Originally posted by Maxwell Smart
    That's precisely why it does matter. If that thread was the basis for accusing him of being a racist, then the accusation is unbased and slanderous. Calling him a racist simply because he is rude is wrong. You can't publicly say someone is a drug dealer just because you catch them shoplifting, the two are unrelated.
    call it racism, being a stupid a&£hole, an ignorant loser, whatever. and yes it can be verified.
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    19 Oct '08 08:43
    Originally posted by diskamyl
    call it racism, being a stupid a&£hole, an ignorant loser, whatever. and yes it can be verified.
    So then you can be accused of racism due to your poor logic in that post? How exactly does that make sense?
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    19 Oct '08 08:56
    Originally posted by tomtom232
    He posted a thread linking people from non English speaking countries to cheating. I am not saying that is racists because it isn't* but that may be what the accusation is about.



    *racism is about color of skin more or less. This case would seem to be nationalism or lingualism.
    Come on tomotom!

    Don"t you remember Mr T declaring how proud he is of his absolutely English culture et all?

    On the other hand the fact that the essential issue about racism is the concept of the discrimination between "Us" and "Them", and Mr T is beyond any doubt dicriminative. Or not?
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