1. Standard memberDiet Coke
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    02 Mar '07 19:55
    Originally posted by bishops r cool
    [fen][/fen][fen]p1[/fen]white to play 3 moves to mate( all pieces captured)
    this PROVES bishops are better cause if black had 2 bishops instead of knights black would win
    😲
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    02 Mar '07 22:23
    Originally posted by rubberjaw30
    some people will tell you preference, which is bull hockey
    the position itself dictates which is more important...
    if it is closed, and you exchange a knight for a bishop, shame on you...
    remember, experts think a bishop is worth slightly more than a knight based on THEORY
    theory does not cover every position...
    This is now getting stupid.

    I agree with Rubberjaw the Bishop is slightly better than the Knight, as I said 3.5 to 3.25, but the position and activity of the pieces will always dictate.
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    03 Mar '07 19:448 edits
    Invalid FEN inserted - p1q3q5r3r4r5r6r7r8wk1k8k3wn1wn2wn3wn4wn5


    BLACK TO PLAY 😏
    I NEED A BIGGER BOARD (or a bigger brain)
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    03 Mar '07 19:57
    wtf...how did you do that?
  5. EDMONTON ALBERTA
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    03 Mar '07 20:54
    I'm currently playing a game where my bishops are dominating.

    Game 3203938 It is in progress, no comments please, but I know how to use my bishops and that knowledge has won many games. I have won more games with bishops then I have with knights. I usually use my knights to trade for bishops which is harder to do then to use your bishops to trade for knights.
  6. Standard memberBigDogg
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    03 Mar '07 21:41
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    wtf...how did you do that?
    It appears Mr. Newmann has some bugs in his fen code.
  7. Standard memberWulebgr
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    03 Mar '07 21:45
    Originally posted by Jusuh
    wtf...how did you do that?
    Invalid FEN inserted - 7N/6n1/5N2/4n3/3N4/2n5/1N6/n7/4k3/3K4
  8. Standard memberUmbrageOfSnow
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    03 Mar '07 22:006 edits
    Invalid FEN inserted - 8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8/8/RNBQKBNR/PPPPPPPP/8/8/8/8/pppppppp/rnbqkbnr
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    04 Mar '07 00:44
    Originally posted by Dolphin55
    This is now getting stupid.

    I agree with Rubberjaw the Bishop is slightly better than the Knight, as I said 3.5 to 3.25, but the position and activity of the pieces will always dictate.
    and that's what i dais: the position dictates...
    how did you manage to disagree with me when we said the exact same thing?
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    04 Mar '07 03:214 edits
    Grrrrrr...



    Could we please stop with the faulty FEN codes going outside of the post itself?

    (Nothing new to add, but the off the board pieces are annoying and in the way. Plus they add nothing to the debate at all.)

    I agree with several on here that the bishop has a slight edge overall, but that either piece could be better depending on the board position (particularly pawn structure) and how mobile the piece itself is.

    In the board above, black knights are bad, white knights are good, white bishop is bad, black bishop is good.
  11. Standard memberRagnorak
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    04 Mar '07 11:18
    Originally posted by geepamoogle
    Grrrrrr...

    [fen]4k1n1/4p3/4Np1p/3b1P2/3N4/1P6/2P1P1P1/n3KB2 w 0 1[/fen]

    Could we please stop with the faulty FEN codes going outside of the post itself?

    (Nothing new to add, but the off the board pieces are annoying and in the way. Plus they add nothing to the debate at all.)

    I agree with several on here that the bishop has a slight edge ov ...[text shortened]... above, black knights are bad, white knights are good, white bishop is bad, black bishop is good.
    The white bishop isn't really bad. Its more illusory than anything else.

    D
  12. Standard memberWizard of Fire
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    04 Mar '07 12:05
    i generally like both,
    Bishops to pin pieces from far away and then knights to fork pieces.
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    04 Mar '07 12:361 edit
    Originally posted by Ragnorak
    The white bishop isn't really bad. Its more illusory than anything else.
    Well, it's bad for the moment because it has no mobility. You're right though that one pawn move will free it, and thus it isn't near as bad as either black knight.
  14. over there
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    04 Mar '07 12:46
    http://www.jeremysilman.com/chess_orlov_middlegame/040731_B_vs_Kt.html

    Problem solved.
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