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Why bother with the Nimzo?

Why bother with the Nimzo?

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I know a lot of Nimzo players also play the QID after Nf3. Some of them even like the QID more. So, I don't really see the problem with 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 3. Nc3 (Nf3 transposes) Bb7 Although, almost no one plays this, so I'm sure there's some problem.

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im not sure, but wikipedia has some great info

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4. e4 is the reason no one plays it.

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Originally posted by Heroic Metool
4. e4 is the reason no one plays it.
Well, I don't see how that would work. Can't black just capture e4?

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Originally posted by jvanhine
im not sure, but wikipedia has some great info
Does anyone know who writes those detailed wikipedia articles on openings? They give references at the end; are they paraphrasing, quoting or making stuff up? It'd be funny to see those authors revealed as a 1400 bum like myself.

Like the tennis racquet salesman in Seinfeld 😉

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Originally posted by allostery
Does anyone know who writes those detailed wikipedia articles on openings? They give references at the end; are they paraphrasing, quoting or making stuff up? It'd be funny to see those authors revealed as a 1400 bum like myself.

Like the tennis racquet salesman in Seinfeld 😉
Anyone can contribute to Wikipedia. Thus, it can be a 1400 or a 2400 for all we know.

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Originally posted by Heroic Metool
4. e4 is the reason no one plays it.
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Wait, you're doing it without e6? Nevermind then, I'm stupid. >_>

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Originally posted by exigentsky
I know a lot of Nimzo players also play the QID after Nf3. Some of them even like the QID more. So, I don't really see the problem with 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 3. Nc3 (Nf3 transposes) Bb7 Although, almost no one plays this, so I'm sure there's some problem.
Because you are committing to a queenside fianchetto BEFORE white plays Nf3. This is actually called the Queen's Fiancheto defense . I prefer the normal continuation as it allows Bb4.

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Originally posted by giantrobot
Because you are committing to a queenside fianchetto BEFORE white plays Nf3. This is actually called the Queen's Fiancheto defense . I prefer the normal continuation as it allows Bb4.
OK, sure, if you want to have the chance to play the Nimzo, this doesn't work. However, if you want to avoid theory and just get a good position, what is wrong with this? It feels suspicious, but I can't put my finger on it.

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Originally posted by exigentsky
OK, sure, if you want to have the chance to play the Nimzo, this doesn't work. However, if you want to avoid theory and just get a good position, what is wrong with this? It feels suspicious, but I can't put my finger on it.
It's playable, for sure, it'd probably just transpose to a hippo or something. Of course, black gives up the center and has virtually no control since he hasn't played e6 or d6.

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Originally posted by cmsMaster
It's playable, for sure, it'd probably just transpose to a hippo or something. Of course, black gives up the center and has virtually no control since he hasn't played e6 or d6.
Can you elaborate on how Black gives up the center? Why can't he play e6 later?

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Originally posted by exigentsky
I know a lot of Nimzo players also play the QID after Nf3. Some of them even like the QID more. So, I don't really see the problem with 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 3. Nc3 (Nf3 transposes) Bb7 Although, almost no one plays this, so I'm sure there's some problem.
3...Bb7 looks a bit unflexible as black often put the bishop on a6 in many lines of the QID

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Originally posted by exigentsky
I know a lot of Nimzo players also play the QID after Nf3. Some of them even like the QID more. So, I don't really see the problem with 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 b6 3. Nc3 (Nf3 transposes) Bb7 Although, almost no one plays this, so I'm sure there's some problem.
because qid is boring....i stick with the nimzo or bogo indian..almost the same ideas

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Originally posted by bikingviking
3...Bb7 looks a bit unflexible as black often put the bishop on a6 in many lines of the QID
I agree.

The dilema of many openings is that to play them best from an objective point-of-view means maintaining flexibility where possible. i.e. we can best meet our opponent's options if we keep our own options open.

However, from a practical point-of-view, this may involve learning more theory; understanding a wider variety of typical middlegames; etc.

So, it may depend on how you balance playing objectively versus being practical/economic.