1. Standard memberAlcra
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    23 Mar '05 14:37
    Originally posted by iamatiger
    So, LDY is Married to MNB:
    Is there any connection of MNA to MDB or LDY (work collegue, employed by, friend, vicar at wedding etc) that is relevant?

    Did the scenario really happen?

    Was the scenario invented for the purposes of this puzzle only?

    Does the scenario come up in another context to that of this puzzle?

    Would knowing the way that this ...[text shortened]... ly?

    Will the killing of MNA benefit anyone other than the person who kills him significantly?
    So, LDY is Married to MNB:
    Is there any connection of MNA to MDB or LDY (work collegue, employed by, friend, vicar at wedding etc) that is relevant? YES

    Did the scenario really happen? IT IS NOT REAL (BUT YES - in a fantasy-type way)

    Was the scenario invented for the purposes of this puzzle only? NO

    Does the scenario come up in another context to that of this puzzle? I think so (Ask the question again so I am sure of your intent)

    Would knowing the way that this scenario is related to religion help us significantly in finding the answer? NO

    If you imagine the setup of the scenario as if it was really happening now, are you imagining normal living human beings? NO

    Will the killing of MNA benefit the person who kills him significantly? YES

    Will the killing of MNA benefit anyone other than the person who kills him significantly? MAYBE (ask more around this question)
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    23 Mar '05 14:48
    will killing MNA save MNB's life?
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    23 Mar '05 14:501 edit
    Originally posted by slippytoad
    will killing MNA save MNB's life?
    NO

    EDIT: i may have said yes, or maybe before. Much thought has convinced me the answer should be "NO". Open to debate after the puzzle is complete though!
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    23 Mar '05 14:53
    Is this taken from a fictional story/event or a biblical story/event?
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    23 Mar '05 14:56
    Originally posted by slippytoad
    Is this taken from a fictional story/event or a biblical story/event?
    Two questions in one! not allowed, but anyway 🙂

    from a fictional story/event YES
    biblical story/event NO

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    23 Mar '05 15:13
    forgive me, i'm lacking in sleep. i may be asking questions that have already appeared in some form, though i did try to check.

    *Is the event taken from a film?
    *Is the death of MNA entirely practical (not a crime of passion)?
    *Is the death of MNA crucial to the survival of MNB?
    *Is the death of MNA crucial to the survival of LDY?
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    23 Mar '05 15:15

    *Is the event taken from a film? NO
    *Is the death of MNA entirely practical (not a crime of passion)? MAYBE
    *Is the death of MNA crucial to the survival of MNB? MAYBE
    *Is the death of MNA crucial to the survival of LDY? MAYBE

    (sorry for the maybe's - deeper questions on those subjects may reveal some more facts)
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    (sorry for the maybe's - deeper questions on those subjects may reveal some more facts)
    no, maybes are good, keeps it interesting. the whole asking questions thing feels like cheating anyhow. i'll have to rest on this and come back.
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    23 Mar '05 17:36
    Recap:

    MNA will be killed by either MNB or LDY. MNA knows this. MNB & LDY are married. The killing on MNA is the only feasible action for his killer. MNA and LDY may benefit from his death. This scenario is from a fictional work of art other than a movie. Religion is peripherally involved but of no importance to solving the puzzle.

    Is that all correct?
    Is this from a work of Shakespeare?
    Is the source of this scenario a play?
    Is the source of this scenario a fairy tale?
    Is the source of this scenario a novel?
    Is the source of this scenario Greek Mythology?
    Is the source of this scenario mythology other than Greek?
    Will MNB kill MNA?
    Will LDY kill MNA?
    Do you know which of the two will kill MNA?
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    23 Mar '05 22:06
    It's not the final scene from that meteor film is it? Deep impact? There was another one too. Man flies a nuclear warhead into a metoerite at the last second. What a guy.
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    24 Mar '05 05:08
    Originally posted by The Plumber
    Recap:

    MNA will be killed by either MNB or LDY. MNA knows this. MNB & LDY are married. The killing on MNA is the only feasible action for his killer. MNA and LDY may benefit from his death. This scenario is from a fictional work of art other than a movie. Religion is peripherally involved but of no importance to solving the puzzle.

    Is that al ...[text shortened]... an Greek?
    Will MNB kill MNA?
    Will LDY kill MNA?
    Do you know which of the two will kill MNA?
    Is that all correct? NO (it is not a fictional work of art - the misleading question "from a fictional story/event" was yes - but there were two pieces in the question).
    Is this from a work of Shakespeare? NO
    Is the source of this scenario a play? NO
    Is the source of this scenario a fairy tale? NO
    Is the source of this scenario a novel? NO
    Is the source of this scenario Greek Mythology? NO
    Is the source of this scenario mythology other than Greek? NO
    Will MNB kill MNA? MAYBE
    Will LDY kill MNA? MAYBE
    Do you know which of the two will kill MNA? NO (its a future act).
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    24 Mar '05 05:08
    Originally posted by jimslyp69
    It's not the final scene from that meteor film is it? Deep impact? There was another one too. Man flies a nuclear warhead into a metoerite at the last second. What a guy.
    NO
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    24 Mar '05 14:15
    Originally posted by Alcra
    NO
    Oh yes it is!
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    24 Mar '05 17:47
    Let's try again:

    MNA will be killed by either MNB or LDY. Which one will kill him has not yet been determined, but he will definitely be killed. MNA knows that he will be killed. MNB & LDY are married. All three persons are human beings, but are not real people. The killing of MNA is the only feasible action for his (as yet to be determined) killer. The killer will definitely benefit from his death, and the killer's spouse may benefit from his death. This scenario is from a fictional story/event other than a movie, and is not a fictional work of art. Religion is peripherally involved but of no importance to solving the puzzle.

    Is that correct?
    If MNA were not killed, would either MNB or LDY die?
    If MNA were not killed, would either MNB or LDY be worse off than they are now?
    Will MNB also die shortly?
    Will LDY also die shortly?
    Does MNB know that MNA will die shortly?
    Does LDY know that MNA will die shortly?
    Do either LDY or MNB know that MNA will die shortly?
    Will either MNB or LDY also die shortly?
    Will MNA die within the next few minutes?
    Will MNA die within the next hour?
    Will MNA die within the next 6 hours?
    Will MNA die within the next day?
    Do any of the three characters have names that we might recognize and that would help us determine the scene?
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    Is that correct? YES
    If MNA were not killed, would either MNB or LDY die? MAYBE
    If MNA were not killed, would either MNB or LDY be worse off than they are now? MAYBE
    Will MNB also die shortly? NO
    Will LDY also die shortly? NO
    Does MNB know that MNA will die shortly? YES
    Does LDY know that MNA will die shortly? YES
    Do either LDY or MNB know that MNA will die shortly? YES
    Will either MNB or LDY also die shortly? NO
    Will MNA die within the next few minutes? MAYBE
    Will MNA die within the next hour? YES
    Will MNA die within the next 6 hours? YES
    Will MNA die within the next day? YES
    Do any of the three characters have names that we might recognize and that would help us determine the scene? DEFINE 'NAMES'
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