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The high mortality rate is actually "good" in terms of preventing the spread of the epidemic. Dead people don't spread diseases (at least not for long).
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThink about how a virus spreads. The more contagious, the more hosts the virus spreads to and this is the measure of the success of the virus in my mind. The more hosts the greater the chance of a significant mutation.
Rabies is not very infectious, it requires a bite, and there is a vaccine which is effective - provided it is administered before symptoms develop. In the case of anthrax there are three types of infection: pulmonary, gastro-intestinal and cutaneous. The last case of anthrax in the UK was a drum maker inhaling spores on the surface of an imported anima ...[text shortened]... /7705328.stm
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax
[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles
Originally posted by humyOn a technical point, when they say airborne they mean independent of droplets. So sneezing, coughing etc. are necessary for aerosol transmission, but not for airborne transmission. Again we need a disease transmission expert to answer this question. Looking at Wikipedia, or even a high quality source, won't really help us as it's just too easy to misapply what is being said.People with Ebola do not become infectious until they are showing symptoms.
Might that might change if it mutates to become airborne?
But then I assume it would require coughing or sneezing to readily get airborne which, of course, is a symptom.
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I am not sure if a virus necessarily requires coughing or sneezing or a speci ...[text shortened]... ughing or sneezing or any other symptom and, if so, what is the mechanism that gets it airborne?
Originally posted by DeepThought
On a technical point, when they say airborne they mean independent of droplets. So sneezing, coughing etc. are necessary for aerosol transmission, but not for airborne transmission. Again we need a disease transmission expert to answer this question. Looking at Wikipedia, or even a high quality source, won't really help us as it's just too easy ...[text shortened]... t I have the impression they are still infectious. Again, we need an expert to comment on this.
With aerosol transmission the bug is confined to its water droplet, which means that normal breathing won't generate transmission.
The post that was quoted here has been removed"I doubt that Ebola is a US biological weapons experiment."
Originally posted by Metal BrainFilovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon, it is too fragile out of the body. It is fairly easy to kill, heating it to 60 celcius will kill it as will relatively mild chemical agents, household disinfectant will probably do, all of which, I imagine, would hinder weaponization. Also they'd have had a job producing it in 1976, before the advent of genetic tinkering technologies. The phylogenetic tree linking it to other viruses which you can look at on the Ebola virus page on Wikipedia shows it's relationship to other viruses such as Marburg. It has a known natural reservoir in bats. Besides, all they had to do to keep population down in Liberia and Sierra Leone was not stop the civil war there. I really don't think that this kind of conspiracy theory is even remotely plausible.
"I doubt that Ebola is a US biological weapons experiment."
It does seem unlikely to be useful to the military. It could have been created for the purpose of population reduction though.
http://www.activistpost.com/2014/08/boom-top-ebola-scientist-joked-about.html
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_depopu12.htm
Originally posted by DeepThoughtThis doesn't mean ebola could not be used as a weapon. If someone can be persuaded into becoming a suicide bomber, then it's not so crazy to believe someone could be persuaded into intentionally infecting themselves and coming into the U.S. through our weakened Southern border. This will only be a crazy conspiracy theory if it never happens... but I'm not so sure it couldn't happen.
Filovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon, it is too fragile out of the body. It is fairly easy to kill, heating it to 60 celcius will kill it as will relatively mild chemical agents, household disinfectant will probably do, all of which, I imagine, would hinder weaponization. Also they'd have had a job producing it in 1976, before the advent of ...[text shortened]... war there. I really don't think that this kind of conspiracy theory is even remotely plausible.
Originally posted by lemon limeAre you really that ignorant about US immigration? The vast majority of people entering the US do so perfectly legally and do so via the many other border controls. The only reason people sneak across the Southern boarder is because they are poor, do not have the necessary paperwork and that is where they are currently.
..... and coming into the U.S. through our weakened Southern border.
Originally posted by twhiteheadBut are you really sure terrorists infecting themselves with ebola (for some reason), then flying to Mexico (for some reason) and then crossing the border illegally (for some reason) is something that couldn't happen?
Are you really that ignorant about US immigration? The vast majority of people entering the US do so perfectly legally and do so via the many other border controls. The only reason people sneak across the Southern boarder is because they are poor, do not have the necessary paperwork and that is where they are currently.
A suicide bomber is typically reas ...[text shortened]... im into the US, and is not South American.
And there would be no need to infect himself at all.
Originally posted by DeepThought"Filovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon"
Filovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon, it is too fragile out of the body. It is fairly easy to kill, heating it to 60 celcius will kill it as will relatively mild chemical agents, household disinfectant will probably do, all of which, I imagine, would hinder weaponization. Also they'd have had a job producing it in 1976, before the advent of ...[text shortened]... war there. I really don't think that this kind of conspiracy theory is even remotely plausible.
Originally posted by Metal BrainBeing "open-minded" also entails the ability to distinguish the possible from the plausible.
"Filovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon"
I'm not saying it makes a good biological weapon, but it does have the potential to overwhelm hospitals which is enough to be used as a contributing factor against an enemy. Russia and China sent people to Africa because of ebola. I'm sure they claim it is for humanitarian reasons, but you know the re ...[text shortened]... d in Africa? Can you admit that people are that evil and not just in Imperial Japan but the USA?
Originally posted by Metal BrainFor pities sake. To be a usable biological weapon it needs to be more or less spherical, the particle size needs to be in the right range, larger and its not airborne, smaller and it just gets breathed out again. At that size the particles pick up electrostatic charge and tend to clump, so part of weaponization is defending against that aspect. Filoviruses are delicate and will not survive weaponization. Filoviruses are the wrong shape. If anyone were to try using a biological weapon they'd go for Anthrax, it's ideal.
"Filovirus wouldn't make a good biological weapon"
I'm not saying it makes a good biological weapon, but it does have the potential to overwhelm hospitals which is enough to be used as a contributing factor against an enemy. Russia and China sent people to Africa because of ebola. I'm sure they claim it is for humanitarian reasons, but you know the re ...[text shortened]... d in Africa? Can you admit that people are that evil and not just in Imperial Japan but the USA?