1. Standard memberKellyJay
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    26 Apr '08 18:081 edit
    never mind
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    26 Apr '08 18:29
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    "Well, I don't know - will you give tenure to professors in geography who are flat earthers? What about geocentric astronomers? "

    You believe if someone accepts ID that is like accepting the earth
    is flat therefore they should not teach?
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    They could teach, sure - geography, computer science, you name it.
    Not biology, thought.
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    26 Apr '08 19:03
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    They could teach, sure - geography, computer science, you name it.
    Not biology, thought.
    I'd rather they didn't teach geology either....
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    26 Apr '08 19:23
    Originally posted by Mexico
    I'd rather they didn't teach geology either....
    Well, if you mean that because of the "world existing 5768 years" thing - it's not an ID belief but rather a YEC (Young Earth Creationism) one.
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    26 Apr '08 19:261 edit
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    Well, if you mean that because of the "world existing 5768 years" thing - it's not an ID belief but rather a YEC (Young Earth Creationism) one.
    The Irish christian bishop James Ussher thought that the Date of Creation was at the night preceding October 23, 4004 BC.
    Was he wrong?
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    26 Apr '08 19:33
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    Well, if you mean that because of the "world existing 5768 years" thing - it's not an ID belief but rather a YEC (Young Earth Creationism) one.
    Not just that, fossil record, denial of Radiometric dating, some deny plate tectonics... Lot of stuff really
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    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    They could teach, sure - geography, computer science, you name it.
    Not biology, thought.
    Not physical geography. That's practically geology.

    Intelligent design proponents say that although evidence pointing to the nature of an "intelligent cause or agent" may not be directly observable, its effects on nature can be detected. Dembski, in Signs of Intelligence, states: "Proponents of intelligent design regard it as a scientific research program that investigates the effects of intelligent causes ... not intelligent causes per se". In his view, one cannot test for the identity of influences exterior to a closed system from within, so questions concerning the identity of a designer fall outside the realm of the concept. In the 20 years since Intelligent Design was first formulated, no rigorous test that can identify these effects has yet been proposed.[31][32] No articles supporting intelligent design have been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals, nor has intelligent design been the subject of scientific research or testing.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design[33]


    It's just not science. Come on. Propose an ID experiment. Can you?
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    26 Apr '08 19:591 edit
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Not physical geography. That's practically geology.

    Intelligent design proponents say that although evidence pointing to the nature of an "intelligent cause or agent" may not be directly observable, its effects on nature can be detected. Dembski, in Signs of Intelligence, states: "Proponents of intelligent design regard it as a scientific resea nt_design[33]

    It's just not science. Come on. Propose an ID experiment. Can you?
    It's just not science. Come on. Propose an ID experiment.

    Of course not, ID is not science. I'm just saying that I have no problem having some one who believe in Flat Earth teaching me Computer Science, for example.


    Edit: Of course, I guess that all Flat Earthers are idiots ; I'm talking theoretically.
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    26 Apr '08 20:03
    Originally posted by FabianFnas
    The Irish christian bishop James Ussher thought that the Date of Creation was at the night preceding October 23, 4004 BC.
    Was he wrong?
    Twice.
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    26 Apr '08 20:07
    Originally posted by Mexico
    Not just that, fossil record, denial of Radiometric dating, some deny plate tectonics... Lot of stuff really
    Ok, you win, forget geography. What about geometry? 😉
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    26 Apr '08 22:30
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    They could teach, sure - geography, computer science, you name it.
    Not biology, thought.
    Yea, no job issues there. What was the name of that movie again?
    Kelly
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    26 Apr '08 22:31
    Originally posted by Mexico
    I'd rather they didn't teach geology either....
    What was the name of that movie again?
    Kelly
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    26 Apr '08 22:33
    Originally posted by AThousandYoung
    Not physical geography. That's practically geology.

    Intelligent design proponents say that although evidence pointing to the nature of an "intelligent cause or agent" may not be directly observable, its effects on nature can be detected. Dembski, in Signs of Intelligence, states: "Proponents of intelligent design regard it as a scientific resea ...[text shortened]... nt_design[33]

    It's just not science. Come on. Propose an ID experiment. Can you?
    Lets see, we could try to build something and see if we can create life.
    Isn't that being done all the time?
    Kelly
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    26 Apr '08 22:341 edit
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    [b]It's just not science. Come on. Propose an ID experiment.

    Of course not, ID is not science. I'm just saying that I have no problem having some one who believe in Flat Earth teaching me Computer Science, for example.


    Edit: Of course, I guess that all Flat Earthers are idiots ; I'm talking theoretically.[/b]
    What was the name of that movie again, you know the one that says
    those that ask those questions get called names and belittled?
    Kelly
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    26 Apr '08 22:35
    Originally posted by Retrovirus
    Ok, you win, forget geography. What about geometry? 😉
    You believe anyone who thinks ID could be real shouldn't be able
    to teach anything?
    Kelly
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