Is time a constant?

Originally posted by twhitehead
No, I am not entirely sure what you point is.
In my scenario, we do stay in contact with GPS satellites more or less at all times.

As for your question:
[b]I again acknowledge what you’re saying; I'm still asking the same thing why do you think it time and not some physical dilation with the same factors?
Its the most simple explanation. It work ...[text shortened]... r clocks adjusted in order to take into account these effects regardless of the actual cause.[/b]

Not denying it works, I think it is great that it works; I'm over joy'ed that it works.
That does not mean at all what I'm saying still isn't true!
I'm speaking of moments of time, if we at all times share the same moments, then
at no time does one leave our time and come back into it.
That does acknowledge we can predict the outcomes of specific events, but we
may be looking at it wrong as we do it, and still get some of our answers correct.
If a change in perspective is required to be more accurate, why wouldn't we want to
review everything and see if we come up with even more by viewing the universe
in a much more accurate manner, not doing so is pure laziness as being bothered
to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not denying it works, I think it is great that it works; I'm over joy'ed that it works.
That does not mean at all what I'm saying still isn't true!
I'm speaking of moments of time, if we at all times share the same moments, then
at no time does one leave our time and come back into it.
That does acknowledge we can predict the outcomes of specific events ...[text shortened]... ure laziness as being bothered
to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.
Kelly

We leave our time and come back into it all the time, as it were🙂
Since time flows slower away from gravity, if you go up a mountain every step you take puts you in a slightly different time flow, different from the people on top and different from the people below. If you are at the north or south pole, time is going at a different rate than people on the equator due to velocity difference, equitorial velocity V none at the exact pole. So everyone on earth is ALREADY in a different time flow than the person next to you. You cannot all be in the same time flow together, exactly, because we are all at different altitudes and latitudes, fat people have different time flows as skinny people, elephants have a slightly different time flow than the fattest human, more mass, more gravity, less time flow. Tiny baby, faster time flow, less mass. Of course that is modified if you go on a jet, since the faster you go, the slower your time is than for people not moving on the earth, but of course the planet is moving so we experience a different time flow than a solar system going in the opposite direction of galactic movement. The whole galaxy is moving about 200 miles per second in some direction or other which gives the whole galaxy a different time flow than one moving slower, so I think it save to say almost all the matter in the universe is in a different time flow, nobody in exact sync.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not denying it works, I think it is great that it works; I'm over joy'ed that it works.
That does not mean at all what I'm saying still isn't true!
I'm speaking of moments of time, if we at all times share the same moments, then
at no time does one leave our time and come back into it.
That does acknowledge we can predict the outcomes of specific events ...[text shortened]... ure laziness as being bothered
to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.
Kelly

Why do you keep talking about people "leaving our time"?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Not denying it works, I think it is great that it works; I'm over joy'ed that it works.
That does not mean at all what I'm saying still isn't true!
I'm speaking of moments of time, if we at all times share the same moments, then
at no time does one leave our time and come back into it.
That does acknowledge we can predict the outcomes of specific events ure laziness as being bothered
to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.
Kelly

If a change in perspective is required to be more accurate, why wouldn't we want to review everything and see if we come up with even more by viewing the universe in a much more accurate manner, not doing so is pure laziness as being bothered to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.

I look forward to the peer reviewed results of your research; since you know better than all the physicists, I'm sure you'll want to demonstrate where your model of reality is more effective than theirs at predicting our observations.

Originally posted by KellyJay
If a change in perspective is required to be more accurate, why wouldn't we want to
review everything and see if we come up with even more by viewing the universe
in a much more accurate manner, not doing so is pure laziness as being bothered
to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.
Kelly

You are totally correct. However, so far you haven't presented anything other than intuition so support the claim that your view is more accurate. I have already stated that it may be worth investigating, but I am far from convinced that there are any good reasons to think it is the right path to follow, and so I wouldn't want to invest too much time or money on it. Maybe a few graduate students could look into it.

In the past, people thought the sun went round the earth, and so did all the planets. It may have seemed like a good intuitive solution, and could even be used today. Its all a matter of perspective. However, our current view of the planets going round the sun is so much simpler mathematically that that is what we will stick to.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Why do you keep talking about people "leaving our time"?

Have you been reading my posts?
Kelly

Originally posted by sonhouse
We leave our time and come back into it all the time, as it were🙂
Since time flows slower away from gravity, if you go up a mountain every step you take puts you in a slightly different time flow, different from the people on top and different from the people below. If you are at the north or south pole, time is going at a different rate than people on th ...[text shortened]... to say almost all the matter in the universe is in a different time flow, nobody in exact sync.

Since time flows slower is the topic of discussion! If we all share the same moments
and those moments are shared across the board everywhere, time isn't slower any
where, instead some material event is taking place, not much different than
something getting hot or cold, it shares the same universe, but an affect takes
place that alters it.
Kelly

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
If a change in perspective is required to be more accurate, why wouldn't we want to review everything and see if we come up with even more by viewing the universe in a much more accurate manner, not doing so is pure laziness as being bothered to view the universe accurately is to much trouble.

I look forward to the peer reviewed results of y ate where your model of reality is more effective than theirs at predicting our observations.

Oh please, this is a discussion on a chess site, get real will you! I'm simply asking
a question for discussion, one more than one person has taken an interest in, and
you throw in peer review results! Just ignore me, quick wasting your time with me
if you have to fall back to this dribble when you dislike the give and take of our
discussions. Trust me; I feel much better about this site when I started doing that
with people I believe to be a waste of time talking to.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Have you been reading my posts?
Kelly

Yes. Are you able to answer questions?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Oh please, this is a discussion on a chess site, get real will you! I'm simply asking
a question for discussion, one more than one person has taken an interest in, and
you throw in peer review results! Just ignore me, quick wasting your time with me
if you have to fall back to this dribble when you dislike the give and take of our
discussions. Trust me; ...[text shortened]... site when I started doing that
with people I believe to be a waste of time talking to.
Kelly

You're the one calling people lazy for not choosing to base their scientific theories on your highly irregular model of reality.

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Yes. Are you able to answer questions?

Nearly all of my post went to that topic, if you feel the need to see it again I'll
repost some of them for you.
Kelly

Originally posted by AThousandYoung
You're the one calling people lazy for not choosing to base their scientific theories on your highly irregular model of reality.

"Imagine trying to force the electrical engineering community to switch to metric and to refer to current as the movement of electrons instead of positive charge. It might be a good idea to make those changes but it's just not going to happen, and it doesn't ned to happen. The engineering works either way."

They would if you could show it was the right way to look at it. It is about what
is right, that is my point, who cares if you like the way you were looking at it if
you discover it was wrong.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Nearly all of my post went to that topic, if you feel the need to see it again I'll
repost some of them for you.
Kelly

Apparently you are unable to answer questions. You can RESPOND to them but not answer them.

Originally posted by KellyJay
"Imagine trying to force the electrical engineering community to switch to metric and to refer to current as the movement of electrons instead of positive charge. It might be a good idea to make those changes but it's just not going to happen, and it doesn't ned to happen. The engineering works either way."

They would if you could show it was the right w ...[text shortened]... , who cares if you like the way you were looking at it if
you discover it was wrong.
Kelly

You are aware that current (in a wire) is defined as being opposite the movement of electrons right? Why would we do that?

Tradition. Current was discovered before electrons. Now, however, we know better. This is widely known. Do you really think electrical engineers are ignorant of this or believe differently?

EDIT -

Electric current means, depending on the context, a flow of electric charge (a phenomenon) or the rate of flow of electric charge (a quantity).[1] This flowing electric charge is typically carried by moving electrons, in a conductor such as wire

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current

http://tinyurl.com/yhrjpdd

Originally posted by KellyJay
Since time flows slower is the topic of discussion! If we all share the same moments
and those moments are shared across the board everywhere, time isn't slower any
where, instead some material event is taking place, not much different than
something getting hot or cold, it shares the same universe, but an affect takes
place that alters it.
Kelly

What do you think is happening in Black Holes? Do you think time is going the same rate as here on Earth?
It sounds to me like you just don't want modern science to be right about anything, preferring to have contrary opinions which are totally unfounded except in your own mind. You are trying to invent your own universe which is at odds with the one in which we are living.

For instance, you say it's great that the equations of time work, the GPS works great, etc., but in your universe time flows the same for everyone, then what is the set of equations you would come up with to make the GPS units all work right or what would you do about atomic clocks you KNOW were accurate to within attoseconds side by side on earth but then all you do is go to the top floor of an 80 story building and that clock is reading different from the one on the first floor. What set of equations would you come up with that would clear the air about that situation? Or would you simply think the one you put on the top floor is now just not working right? Or the one on the first floor just went bonkers? What do you do if you do that with a hundred different atomic clocks all the same design and they all do the same thing, the clocks tick one way on the 80th floor and a different way on the first floor, you just did that experiment 100 times and all the clocks agree, are they ALL bonkers now?