We may be 8 billion years away from the great rise of civilizations to galactic space and beyond. Politics of that may have stabilized all over the Universe in less than 1 billion years, which is really huge, Earth civilization grew exponentially in 10k years. We must be in a protected reserved area of the galaxy.
@mihaisaid We may be 8 billion years away from the great rise of civilizations to galactic space and beyond. Politics of that may have stabilized all over the Universe in less than 1 billion years, which is really huge, Earth civilization grew exponentially in 10k years. We must be in a protected reserved area of the galaxy.
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We must be in a “protected reserved area of the Galaxy” because you believe life elsewhere in the universe is too far away from us?
@mihaisaid We may be 8 billion years away from the great rise of civilizations to galactic space and beyond. Politics of that may have stabilized all over the Universe in less than 1 billion years, which is really huge, Earth civilization grew exponentially in 10k years. We must be in a protected reserved area of the galaxy.
Or, maybe, none of that is remotely realistic and we really are alone except for some not very advanced microbes on 3764 Ceti J, and an unpromising primordial soup on Claxton 453.j996-7.
@moonbus The moon size coincidence looks like an intentional sign from a creator. It is such a relatively large moon. Then it looks equally as big as the Sun in this 100 million years when the big ugly dinosaurs were canceled, and during which humans space capable civilization developed in the past 10 thousands years. We are finding our own way, our own evolution path improvements towards the living civilized galactic world. Excessive contact can heavily interfere with original natural development. Any significant early contact may corrupt our developing original human identity from Earth.
Some related poetry may sound like "the Moon looks equally as big as the Sun, but it just happens to be much closer and its light is only a reflection of sunlight, the Moon does not make any light of its own". Identity and good valuable original contributions to the civilized living Universe are likely of universal importance. Civilized aliens are likely afraid of identity theft too.
Earth seems to be evolving in a relatively nice taking it easy region of the galaxy. First life likely evolved much closer to the violently dynamic galactic center.
@divegeester The coincidence is that the unusual relatively very large moon looks equally as big as the Sun in the 100 million years time frame during which higher reasoning life grew up on Earth. The solar system feels nicely arranged much more than a random twist of fate. It may contain a set of well known easy to notice patterns among better informed and more aware civilized aliens, like obvious signpost patterns of being a marked creation, not a fully random wild development.
@mihaisaid @moonbus The moon size coincidence looks like an intentional sign from a creator. It is such a relatively large moon. Then it looks equally as big as the Sun in this 100 million years when the big ugly dinosaurs were canceled, and during which humans space capable civilization developed in the past 10 thousands years. We are finding our own way, our own evolution path improvem ...[text shortened]... egion of the galaxy. First life likely evolved much closer to the violently dynamic galactic center.
The moon’s size, apparently equal to that of the sun, doesn’t look like a sign of anything. It’s just a coincidence and looks like one, too. Except to superstitious people.
@moonbus The Earth and its solar system do not look like anything near resemblance to an African jungle of primordial DNA life variants creation. We should see more distinct DNA variants, maybe see them re-appearing all the time around. A huge evolutionary gap on Earth in the DNA creation area that we are stil, relatively, quite superficially finding local reason for. Given the little found evidence for Earth being able to be a flourishing creative place for DNA life code with multiple distinct variants, we may more likely assume for primordial life on Earth being seeded from somewhere else.
The fastest and strongest life development places are also generally likely to be more of reasonably stable, habitable space jungles, creative edge borderline places. By comparison Earth looks like a very nice cool place. Evolution on Earth was very slow, and by now we could be quite confident that it could have been well faster in a more dynamic and pressing place that is still richly habitable. Considering the likely patterns of creative possibilities the Solar System and Earth feel like a seeded garden, a place to slowly develop something nice, something of highly reliable, slowly developed, good balance high quality.
@divegeestersaid Would you say the apparent image of a face on the moon is indicative of a creator looking down on us?
No,and you know that is true.
What I will say is that if not for the moon being big enough to steady the Earth higher life forms would not exist.
How many planets in the universe in the so called goldilocks zone will have had the same steadying influence?.
One theory is that the moon was once part of the Earth and was separated by an asteroid strike and then trapped by the Earths gravity.
@mihaisaid @divegeester The coincidence is that the unusual relatively very large moon looks equally as big as the Sun in the 100 million years time frame during which higher reasoning life grew up on Earth. The solar system feels nicely arranged much more than a random twist of fate. It may contain a set of well known easy to notice patterns among better informed and more aware civilize ...[text shortened]... ens, like obvious signpost patterns of being a marked creation, not a fully random wild development.
Thanks for that.
Would you say the apparent image of a face on the moon is indicative of a creator looking down on us?
On another aspect very interesting how feature rich the near side of the Moon is. The far side of the Moon looks very dull, with more uniform small craters all over.
@moonbus Nah, they are just hanging around monitoring us so when we off our selves in a nuclear holocaust they will come in and clean up the radiation and start over with aliens running the place, maybe become an alien tourist trap, showing all those human movies and history and the end of humanity so alien archaeologists will do a fine tooth comb of our civilization and add that data to the REST of the failures of civilization in our galaxy.
@vendasaid No,and you know that is true.
What I will say is that if not for the moon being big enough to steady the Earth higher life forms would not exist.
This is the fallacy known as the weak anthropic principle. If the moon hadn't been there, we'd have been asking the same question two hundred parsecs and ninety million years away.
@mihaisaid On another aspect very interesting how feature rich the near side of the Moon is. The far side of the Moon looks very dull, with more uniform small craters all over.
Not a mystery at all. The moon is tidally locked to the earth but hasn't always been. Thus, the near side still bears the scars of the time when there were still relatively big asteroids in our orbit to make nice big craters there, while on the far side they have been obliterated over time by a continuous barrage of smaller but more common bodies.
04 Jun '23 09:49
The galaxy should have been fully colonized many billions of years ago
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