1. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    20 Feb '13 19:481 edit
    Originally posted by mikelom
    Participants

    Subsequent to ethical approval forms within the relevant organizations, invitations to attend a discussion session upon the topic of pain management were posted on the notice boards of hospitals, at the Thailand (Code: 16/2555) , School of Health Care, and Social Welfare at Mälardalen University and the Ethical Review of Research Involving Hu ...[text shortened]... be covered, in consistency with the perception of pain, and pain management.

    C/O Mrs Lom. 😉
    Mrs Lom may hold degrees in Medical/Nursing Knowledge; I don't.

    Mike, if your purpose is to dazzle you've succeeded.

    I'm still in the semi-dark about pain (and happen to have a need to know).
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    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    Yes. This dark and unwholesome onomatopoetic word dates back to the 15th Century, I believe, and embraces the concept of being forcefully struck on the head with a blunt instrument. THUD... THUD! Her Pancreatic Cancer Condition was such that even the Heaviest Dosages of Morphine were to no avail. Final Medications which produced the Obtunded State were Dilaudid with an Ativan Booster (sp).
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    After looking up the word I realized that I do have a frame of reference to inteligently converse on the subject. A few years ago I had a hernia surgery where they gave me an anesthetic which made me unconscience nearly instantly. I was laying there explaining my concerns of the pain in my arm as the anesthetic was going up my arm and before I was finished I ended up in the recovery room. Cant remember what it was called but I do remember thinking it was the stuff Michael Jackson ODed on. Anyway I felt nothing during the time I was out. When I came around I wasnt groggy and didn't feel sick. It was an interesting experience. So it seems the concious brain plays a part in pain perception. I am also glad they didn't have to clobber me over the head to achieve the obtunded state.
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    21 Feb '13 21:151 edit
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]What's the Scientific Explation of Pain?

    The considerable scope and depth of the study in the following link strains my imagination.

    Does anyone have the requisite frame of reference and time to distill it to layman terms?

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pain/

    Thank you.
    .[/b]
    "Pain is a thing of the mind. The mind can be controlled." -- Spock


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    KHA-A-A-A-AAAAAAANN!!! -- Kirk
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    What's the Scientific Explanation of Pain?
    -well, when you are made to bend over and you are spanked, it hurts.
    Hope that helps 😉
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    22 Feb '13 10:51
    Originally posted by humy
    What's the Scientific Explanation of Pain?
    -well, when you are made to bend over and you are spanked, it hurts.
    Hope that helps 😉
    But do you hurt on the outside, or the inside?

    And what of the kinky sorts who enjoy being spanked?

    Can science explain nurse costumes in porn shops?
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    22 Feb '13 10:57
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    After looking up the word I realized that I do have a frame of reference to inteligently converse on the subject. A few years ago I had a hernia surgery where they gave me an anesthetic which made me unconscience nearly instantly. I was laying there explaining my concerns of the pain in my arm as the anesthetic was going up my arm and before I was finish ...[text shortened]... on. I am also glad they didn't have to clobber me over the head to achieve the obtunded state.
    So you didn't notice one of your eyebrows had been shaved off?

    I supposed they would have removed the "polish your pickle for a nickel" sign from around your neck before you came to.
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    22 Feb '13 11:07
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    So you didn't notice one of your eyebrows had been shaved off?

    I supposed they would have removed the "polish your pickle for a nickel" sign from around your neck before you came to.
    I didn't notice any of that but there was some lipstick on my dipstick that matched what one of the nurses color.
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    22 Feb '13 19:29
    Originally posted by joe beyser
    I didn't notice any of that but there was some lipstick on my dipstick that matched what one of the nurses color.
    So this was an in-out-in-out patient procedure. I wonder how the HMO bean counters juggle that one.
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    24 Feb '13 00:33
    Originally posted by Soothfast
    So this was an in-out-in-out patient procedure. I wonder how the HMO bean counters juggle that one.
    They probably just charged for an extra bandage or two. My only problem is that I would have prefered not to have had the anethesia before that portion of the procedure.
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    27 Feb '13 08:20
    Originally posted by joe beyser

    After looking up the word I realized that I do have a frame of reference to inteligently converse on the subject. A few years ago I had a hernia surgery where they gave me an anesthetic which made me unconscience nearly instantly. I was laying there explaining my concerns of the pain in my arm as the anesthetic was going up my arm and before I was finishe ...[text shortened]... eption. I am also glad they didn't have to clobber me over the head to achieve the obtunded state.
    "Cant remember what it was called but I do remember thinking it was the stuff Michael Jackson ODed on."

    http://www.pcqanda.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=203558&mesg_id=203558&page=14

    "So it seems the concious brain plays a part in pain perception."

    Still unclear as to the role science plays. Inclined to think human pain's corporeal.
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    28 Feb '13 15:06
    Originally posted by mikelom
    The interplay of perceiving and managing pain among nurses at a surgical ward
    - a focus group study.

    Abstract

    Aim: To describe surgical ward nurses’ perceptions of pain, and pain management.

    Background: After abdominal surgery pain, as a cause of suffering, there are vital signs of physical illnesses and tissue injuries that bring people to hosp ...[text shortened]... orms within the relevant organizations, invitations to attend a discussion session upon the ...
    We need something for sure in our house. My wife is in constant agonizing pain from several directions at once, now, a torn rotator cuff in her shoulder, and many other sources, keeping her mainly bedridden. I have missed work 3 days in a row taking her to ER and cooking food for her and such, I can't keep this up or will lose my job. We are getting not much help from the medics, just pushing pills that do no good like Oxycodone and such, doesn't touch her pain. I am at a loss as to what to do at this point. Her Neurosurgeon says either an operation of physical therapy for her shoulder but neither course will help in the short term. Right now she is fighting just to get a nights sleep.
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    28 Feb '13 15:23
    Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
    [b]What's the Scientific Explation of Pain?

    The considerable scope and depth of the study in the following link strains my imagination.

    Does anyone have the requisite frame of reference and time to distill it to layman terms?

    http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pain/

    Thank you.
    .[/b]
    Simplest explanation is pain being a defense mechanism to protect further damage after injury and injury avoidance to begin with such as quickly retreating hand from heat upon contact. In effect, leprosy renders sensory perceptions useless for tactile/pain reception and such people frequently end up suffering severe burns as a result of failure to perceive pain.
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    28 Feb '13 16:05
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    We need something for sure in our house. My wife is in constant agonizing pain from several directions at once, now, a torn rotator cuff in her shoulder, and many other sources, keeping her mainly bedridden. I have missed work 3 days in a row taking her to ER and cooking food for her and such, I can't keep this up or will lose my job. We are getting not muc ...[text shortened]... ther course will help in the short term. Right now she is fighting just to get a nights sleep.
    Sorry to hear this. My gal has a similar situation. I bought her a gallon of lubricyn which is a haluronic acid suppliment for livestock. After just a few days she noticed a difference and after a couple of weeks a big difference. She had problems sleeping as well and can now sleep all night. She has recently purchased and is on the second gallon. I used it and I felt a bit better but I don't have the aches and pains she does. I have noticed a change in her skin as well. She takes sleeping medication and trying to convince her to ween off of thet. Instead of script pain pills she now takes advil and tylenol alternately and having good results when she needs them. If you google DEAD DOCTORS DON'T LIE you can find supplimental nutrients that I think we are going to give a try. I dont think is is snake oil. Nutrition is key for a lot of what is wrong with our health.
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    28 Feb '13 16:26
    Originally posted by sonhouse
    We need something for sure in our house. My wife is in constant agonizing pain from several directions at once, now, a torn rotator cuff in her shoulder, and many other sources, keeping her mainly bedridden. I have missed work 3 days in a row taking her to ER and cooking food for her and such, I can't keep this up or will lose my job. We are getting not muc ...[text shortened]... ther course will help in the short term. Right now she is fighting just to get a nights sleep.
    So sorry to hear that. Is there a pain mgt clinic near you? I hope the issue gets resolved.
  15. Standard memberGrampy Bobby
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    01 Mar '13 15:50
    Speaking of Incredible Discomfort; Social Embarrasment; and Pain:

    http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2010/03/26/elephant_man_undergoes_tumor_removal/

    Oh, my....
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