Originally posted by Eladar
Where did God come from? God has always been. God is not part of this or any universe, therefore does not follow the rules. Any explanation of how this universe came into existance short of God, must use the rules that govern the universe. The rules of this universe is that everything has a beginning and everything is the result of something.
This of c ...[text shortened]... he system must be something outside the system that does not follow the rules within the system.
Why can't the Universe have just...happened? Why must there be a creator, specifically a conscious one? If there does turn out to be some principle outside of our Universe that is beyond scientific investigation, why must it be a god? But, really, can't it just have happened, like some Buddhists say?
The Universe is real, this much I know. God, as far as I can tell, is just a story, or a speculation. (And yes, I have prayed and I have had amazing religious and mystical experiences of God, but it really takes very little investigation into the psychology of altered states of consciousness--or logic, really--to realize those hallucinations cannot be taken as proofs of anything.)
Hmm. I would appreciate this religious discussion NOT being in the science forum, or on the thread I started because I wanted to see if anyone here knew about some cosmological speculations. Do you understand how this isn't science, and how it's kind of rude of you to impose your religion into discussions on science? I would not go to the religion forum and begin posting about the latest advances in meteorology, because that would be ridiculously out of place. Why do you feel it's okay to bring God over here?