Originally posted by Velns
Well this isn't my issue, it's your's, and therefore the onus is on you to provide a rational for your case as stated in your OP. I am simply pointing out that the case you have provided thus far is inadequate based on it being unfair and discriminatory.
What i am trying to point out is that if "us scientists" are precious about maintaining the purity of ...[text shortened]...
If you want a private forum for "us scientists" why don't you set up a private club?
What i am trying to point out is that if "us scientists" are precious about maintaining the purity of the Science forum,
NO, that is not exactly what we are saying nor want. It isn't about “maintaining the purity” but rather
specifically keeping religious rhetoric out. We would generally have no objection to
other (i.e. not religious ) non-science issues occasionally being razed in a science thread providing, of course, it doesn't happen too often or start dominating the forum.
Neither I here nor anybody else that I am aware of has ever demanded general “purity” of the forum in particular.
then maybe they would be willing to excercise the same restraint in the Spirituality forum.
As I said before earlier; why should they when virtually nobody complains about science being brought to the Spirituality forum because, presumably, virtually nobody minds science being brought there? Do you deny this? If so, can you give us evidence here that people generally DO have an issue with that?
This contrasts with the Science forum where most of us DO complain with religion being brought to the Science forum because we DO mind it being there! Do you deny this? If so, can you give us evidence here that people generally do NOT have an issue with that? -If you look through the Science forum in any of the threads, you will see constant complaining about religion being brought to the Science forum! If you don't believe me, just look at the Evolution vs Creationism/I.D. consolidation thread. ! What do you think that is about then if not this very issue?
OK, do YOU have an issue with science being brought to the Spirituality forum? YES or NO?
If NO, then I ask you yet AGAIN, OK then, would you object to there being a new separate "Religious vs Science" forum so that the "religious vs science" debate can go in there rather than either the Science forum or the Spirituality forum?
But if YES, then, just like I said before, GIVEN that you would OK that so that anyone that wants to debate "religious vs science" has a forum ( the Spirituality forum ) to do it in, what would be your reason for objecting banning the "religious vs science" debate from the Science forum? -Not being able to put the "religious vs science" in the Science forum would not impede their freedom to debate it because they would, providing they are not wishing to just bully, harass and troll us scientists in the Science forum who, generally, just want to talk about SCIENCE and NOT religion there, happily use the Spirituality forum for this like they have often been doing.
If you want a private forum for "us scientists" why don't you set up a private club?
-because, if it is private, because that means it is not public, I could be wrong about this but I doubt very much I could get enough people to join it for it to be worth while because that would still leave the problem that, because we generally want our threads to be seen PUBLICLY, many of us would continue to choose to place their threads in the public Science forum rather than any private one DESPITE knowing they would expose them to being hijacked there with religious rhetoric thus having a private forum probably wouldn't solve the problem anyway!
Now I have answered your questions, could you do the courtesy of answering mine?
I will continue to answer all your questions.