Originally posted by thire
I just read the thread about the "dangerous" cheat police (but it got lost, so I start a new one).
I have nothing against it, [b]but I think removing a cheater from the site is much too hard! Yes, it's in the terms of service, but ...[text shortened]... big is the "cheating problem"?
What do you guys think?
I can sum it up from a casual user's perspective:
There seems to alot of animosity here. It's not what I would call a real friendly site. If you read the forums you will find thread after thread full of cheating accusations, insults, belligerence, etc. (clearly, some of the loudest complainers are possibly using engines themselves!), and in particular, some people have managed to dominate the forums so totally, and fill them so completely with outright accusation, anti-cheating paranoia, and innuendo, that they have become well-known, (probably well enough to even win a spot themselves in the game moderator popularity contest!). BTW- this "game moderator" -cheat police idea seems to be a direct result of this complaining, and all pervasive paranoia.
Very early in my RHP membership I openly and honestly advertised for computer vs. computer matches in my profile. I received a friendly note from Russ asking not to solicit these computer matches anymore, because he did not want to encourage computer use in any way. I stopped immediately, drew my ogoing games, but to this day seem to have acquired a reputation (see trackhead21 and tmetzler's responses and innuendo to my thread "The “Cheat Police” is a bad & dangerous idea), even though my rating here is comparable to my USCF over-the-board rating.
I personally am not against 'cheat police' at an Internet chess site, but here they've taken the unusual step of allowing the community to 'police itself'. The real scary thing here is the 'cheat police' will just be a group of amateur RHP players, like you and I...with no professional guidance, and little or no experience.
Most sites, like the ICC, chessworld, etc. have fully-trained, experienced staff who investigate cheating claims fairly and effectively using the newest tools and technologies.
Here, I would recommend you simply try to enjoy chess, avoid the forums, and just don't beat someone so badly, or play so well for so long that you're reported to the cheat police! (the result of which is completely unpredictable). If you do mange to remain undefeated here, or play very well, expect accusations/slurs/ and innuendo (as Ironman31 has long endured) , and then probably an eventual inquisition by the 'cheat police' with whom your fate would seem to rest.