1. Subscribermoonbus
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    02 Apr '17 07:221 edit
    Originally posted by padger
    That's double dutch
    I suppose you would remove park benches, just to keep bums from sleeping on them at night, and thereby deny little old ladies a place to sit down during the day. Well, not in my town.
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    02 Apr '17 10:23
    Originally posted by moonbus
    I suppose you would remove park benches, just to keep bums from sleeping on them at night, and thereby deny little old ladies a place to sit down during the day. Well, not in my town.
    luckily in my town [city actually] no one has to sleep on a park bench, not sure the comparison makes sense
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    02 Apr '17 11:18
    Originally posted by moonbus
    I suppose you would remove park benches, just to keep bums from sleeping on them at night, and thereby deny little old ladies a place to sit down during the day. Well, not in my town.
    What are you going on about now ?
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    02 Apr '17 11:59
    Originally posted by padger
    What are you going on about now ?
    maybe looking for a ELO system that cures the homeless problem as well
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    02 Apr '17 12:16
    Sandbagging

    What if every game counts...

    - a point is awarded to the clan for every game won in a challenge

    - a half point is awarded to both clans in the event of a draw

    - no points are removed for a loss

    No need to consider Gross points vs. Net Points... points are just points, they only go up

    There'd be no enticement to resign a game, the challenge isn't decided until the last game is complete

    Points could be awarded either at the conclusion of a challenge, or at the conclusion of each game

    This would help to eliminate the 'artificial player rating drop' we've been seeing

    However, a player could still lower their rating via games outside the clan system

    To counter this, I suggest that each player should have clan rating, uncoupled from their site rating, based on ELO

    Every system can be manipulated if you're clever enough

    Please consider my suggestions and help me find the flaws
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    02 Apr '17 12:51
    Originally posted by Giannotti
    Sandbagging

    What if every game counts...

    - a point is awarded to the clan for every game won in a challenge

    - a half point is awarded to both clans in the event of a draw

    - no points are removed for a loss

    No need to consider Gross points vs. Net Points... points are just points, they only go up

    There'd be no enticement to resign a game ...[text shortened]... manipulated if you're clever enough

    Please consider my suggestions and help me find the flaws
    i would keep the - points for a loss

    if a clan is on top near the end of the year they can resign games, without losing points for the clan but lower their rating

    3 points for a win
    0 points for a draw, this will stop one clan in perticular from collusion
    -3 for a loss

    i agree should be a clan only rating should have been done years ago.
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    02 Apr '17 13:25
    Originally posted by Giannotti
    Sandbagging

    What if every game counts...

    - a point is awarded to the clan for every game won in a challenge

    - a half point is awarded to both clans in the event of a draw

    - no points are removed for a loss

    No need to consider Gross points vs. Net Points... points are just points, they only go up

    There'd be no enticement to resign a game ...[text shortened]... manipulated if you're clever enough

    Please consider my suggestions and help me find the flaws
    My proposal scoring system that works directly off the player's rating.
    It also provides a points reward for the clan.

    Your proposal will not solve clan leaders creating a bunch of 1 player challenge and doing away with larger challenges.
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    02 Apr '17 13:36
    Originally posted by mghrn55
    My proposal scoring system that works directly off the player's rating.
    It also provides a points reward for the clan.

    Your proposal will not solve clan leaders creating a bunch of 1 player challenge and doing away with larger challenges.
    True, but there's a catch to that

    We can only have three challenges with another clan concurrently

    If we tie our clans up with lots of single player challenges, we don't gain as many points
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    02 Apr '17 14:11
    Originally posted by roma45
    i would keep the - points for a loss

    if a clan is on top near the end of the year they can resign games, without losing points for the clan but lower their rating

    3 points for a win
    0 points for a draw, this will stop one clan in perticular from collusion
    -3 for a loss

    i agree should be a clan only rating should have been done years ago.
    +3 and -3 can work for wins and losses as easily as +2 and 0

    I'm not attached to the actual numbers


    I do think equal points should be awarded for a draw

    Clan leaders took the time and effort to set up a fair challenge

    Closely matched players fought each other to a standstill

    I kinda feel that be worth something going forward, as it is now


    For me, a draw is a good result, and I'd like to see it rewarded
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