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    03 Jan '12 13:22
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    But my God is the only true God.
    Your god is Satan, a false god. 😏
    I have no god I'm an Atheist you.... Theist! (hay found an insult I can actually use)

    I was talking (as Penguin says) about the pathetically low standards YOU set for YOUR god.
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    03 Jan '12 13:23
    Originally posted by Nicksten
    Can you prove him wrong?
    If not, accept the fact that people believe different things, it is part of the growing up phase or did you skip the "pre-school" level to understand the basic logic that two people are different.
    Dear FSM you Theists have trouble with English.

    Re-read my posts with your brain switched on please,
    They are really not that hard to comprehend.
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    03 Jan '12 13:44
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    Dear FSM you Theists have trouble with English.

    Re-read my posts with your brain switched on please,
    They are really not that hard to comprehend.
    Have I missed something....
    I am not FSM and if it stands for something else, maybe you really did skip pre-school or what?
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    03 Jan '12 14:06
    Originally posted by Nicksten
    Have I missed something....
    I am not FSM and if it stands for something else, maybe you really did skip pre-school or what?
    FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    I was using it as substitute for saying "Dear god you theists...."

    So yes, you missed something.
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    03 Jan '12 16:12
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    I was using it as substitute for saying "Dear god you theists...."

    So yes, you missed something.
    He probably thought, like I did, that you were referring to the only
    professed theist on this forum, FMF. I am a Christian.
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    03 Jan '12 16:17
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    I have no god I'm an Atheist you.... Theist! (hay found an insult I can actually use)

    I was talking (as Penguin says) about the pathetically low standards YOU set for YOUR god.
    Insult??? its the equivalent of General Grievous calling Anakin Skywalker, 'Jedi scum!'
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    03 Jan '12 18:18
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    FSM = Flying Spaghetti Monster.

    I was using it as substitute for saying "Dear god you theists...."

    So yes, you missed something.
    Kids...Typical!
    You did skip pre-school, I have no more doubt.
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    04 Jan '12 02:57
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    He probably thought, like I did, that you were referring to the only
    professed theist on this forum, FMF. I am a Christian.
    You believe in god, (specifically your version of the Christian god(s)).
    This means you are a theist, someone who believes in a god or gods.

    This is irrefutably so by definition.

    The word is defined to mean someone who believes in god or gods.

    You do believe in a god, thus you are a theist.

    You are also a Christian, Specifically Southern Baptist?

    This is not in any conflict with you being a theist.
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    04 Jan '12 03:13
    Originally posted by robbie carrobie
    Insult??? its the equivalent of General Grievous calling Anakin Skywalker, 'Jedi scum!'
    It's the equivalent of anyone using the label of the 'other side' as an insult, at any time or place in history.

    A good example would be the use of atheist as an insult....

    In this case this would be me trying to find a word I can use (that this site lets me) that encompasses the
    exasperation I feel at those who abandon all logic and reason and cease to value evidence and observation
    in favour of fairy tales and wishful thinking while wasting their lives in honour of the goblin king while trying
    to get everyone else to do it and persecuting those that don't....

    And I suddenly discovered that there was a word that encompassed all that.

    Theist.

    I am an Atheist, and I am one for a reason, and the things that I value that make me an atheist are the things
    that all theists must abandon to be a theist.
    Thus Theist is the word that accurately targets the specific thing I dislike, and nothing else.

    Put it this way, I hate smoking, the smell of the cigarettes, no the stench of the cigarettes, makes me choke, the
    smoke makes it hard to breath, and that's before you get to the health issues.
    However I know some perfectly lovely smokers, with whom I am friends.
    I think their smoking is idiotic, but calling them an idiot impunes more than just the thing I object to.

    In the same way, any insult levelled at someone for being a theist, for throwing away reason and evidence, for
    all the ills of religion, will inevitably imply defects of character or behaviour beyond the religious/theistic ones that I
    am aiming at.

    All but one, the one word that hits only what I am aiming at is the label for what it is I object to. Theist/theism itself.


    So, Yes I use Theist as an insult. In much the same way as many theists use Atheism as an insult.
    And in much the same way as I wear Atheist as a badge of honour, I have no doubt those who I call Theist will wear that
    with equal pride.

    But it's the only word I can think of that only attacks those things I actually want to attack. At least from my point of view.
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    04 Jan '12 04:16
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    You believe in god, (specifically your version of the Christian god(s)).
    This means you are a theist, someone who believes in a god or gods.

    This is irrefutably so by definition.

    The word is defined to mean someone who believes in god or gods.

    You do believe in a god, thus you are a theist.

    You are also a Christian, Specifically Southern Baptist?

    This is not in any conflict with you being a theist.
    I would accept Monotheist. Theist is too broad a category that includes Satan.
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    04 Jan '12 04:33
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I would accept Monotheist. Theist is too broad a category that includes Satan.
    satan is a part of your religion, and you're not a monotheist. the jews are monotheists. the muslims are monothiests. you're a polytheist.
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    04 Jan '12 07:302 edits
    Originally posted by VoidSpirit
    satan is a part of your religion, and you're not a monotheist. the jews are monotheists. the muslims are monothiests. you're a polytheist.
    Your argument is based on your own ignorance and lack of understanding
    of God in Christianity. You are somewhat like the JWs.

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Monotheists

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monotheism
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    04 Jan '12 13:441 edit
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    I would accept Monotheist. Theist is too broad a category that includes Satan.
    What you are prepared to accept is irrelevant.

    You are a theist by definition.

    Complaining that theist is to broad a label, or is not specific enough would be like you
    complaining that American is too broad a label because it also included democrats,
    Or that Human is too broad a label because it includes Muslims...

    You are a theist, whether you are also a monotheist is debatable, but I don't care enough
    to debate it.
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    04 Jan '12 13:59
    Originally posted by googlefudge
    What you are prepared to accept is irrelevant.

    You are a theist by definition.

    Complaining that theist is to broad a label, or is not specific enough would be like you
    complaining that American is too broad a label because it also included democrats,
    Or that Human is too broad a label because it includes Muslims...

    You are a theist, whether you are also a monotheist is debatable, but I don't care enough
    to debate it.
    Okay, stop posting about it then.
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    04 Jan '12 14:18
    Originally posted by RJHinds
    Okay, stop posting about it then.
    I said I didn't care enough about whether or not your brand of Christianity is monotheistic or not.

    That is all that sentence related to, which is perfectly obvious if you actually read what I write and not skim it.
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