Spirituality
23 Apr 11
23 Apr 11
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Originally posted by menace71To be a Christian you need to follow the teachings of the Christ.
Just a YES OR NO will suffice.
To be a Christian must we be part of the JW Organization ? REMEMBER Yes or No
Is all I need.
Manny
Stating that a yes and no is required indicates to me that the proposer, in this case
you, are uninterested in reason.
I will not be made subject to your dictates manny.
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23 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWell, evading the question hardly makes you a paragon of reason. Would you say that following the teachings of the Christ entails membership in the JW organisation? I think a yes or no should suffice here as well.
To be a Christian you need to follow the teachings of the Christ.
Stating that a yes and no is required indicates to me that the proposer, in this case
you, are uninterested in reason.
I will not be made subject to your dictates manny.
23 Apr 11
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Originally posted by Conrau Kdictator!
Well, evading the question hardly makes you a paragon of reason. Would you say that following the teachings of the Christ entails membership in the JW organisation? I think a yes or no should suffice here as well.
but lets see, based on reason, Christ's teachings,
(Matthew 28:19-20) . . .Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations,
baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am
with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.”
therfore in view of this command, that no other organisation has seriously taken this
teaching of Christ to heart, to go to persons with the Good News of Gods Kingdom,
then, yes, i am forced to conclude, that it must be the case.
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23 Apr 11
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo other organisation takes seriously Matthew 28? What, are the JWs singularly responsible for the spread of Christianity across the world?
dictator!
but lets see, based on reason, Christ's teachings,
(Matthew 28:19-20) . . .Go therefore and make disciples of people of all the nations,
baptising them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit,
teaching them to observe all the things I have commanded you. And, look! I am
with you all the days until the c ...[text shortened]... the Good News of Gods Kingdom,
then, yes, i am forced to conclude, that it must be the case.
Anyway, this again does not answer the question. The question is not whether JWs follow the commands of Christ but whether following the commands of Christ necessarily requires membership in the JW organisation. Consider hypothetically the possibility that another church exists which seemingly follows the commands of Christ, though existing separate from your organisation, do you think that they could be called Christian? Or do you think that hypothetical is impossible?
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Originally posted by menace71Good luck.
Just a YES OR NO will suffice.
To be a Christian must we be part of the JW Organization ? REMEMBER Yes or No
Is all I need.
Manny
I'll save you time and tell you now, the answer is yes.
The JW's are an exclusive religious body/sect. No matter what you do, say or believe you cannot be in their claimed 144,000 if you are not a member of the organisation.
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by menace71I believe you've done this before or if not you, it has been done by someone. If you don't want explinations which is the only way to answer a question fairly, I'm not going there. Would it be fair to ask you Manny if your belief was the correct belief and it would insure my salvation if I believed exactly like you and I just want a Yes or No answer?
Just a YES OR NO will suffice.
To be a Christian must we be part of the JW Organization ? REMEMBER Yes or No
Is all I need.
Manny
Not so fair when the question is forced on you is it?
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by galveston75I may be wrong and Manny will clarify when he is online, but I think he's asking that irrespective of what a person says, does, believes etc. Do they still need to be a member of the JW organisation to be considered a Christian?
I believe you've done this before or if not you, it has been done by someone. If you don't want explinations which is the only way to answer a question fairly, I'm not going there. Would it be fair to ask you Manny if your belief was the correct belief and it would insure my salvation if I believed exactly like you and I just want a Yes or No answer?
Not so fair when the question is forced on you is it?
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by divegeesterQuote from above: "If you don't want explinations which is the only way to answer a question fairly, I'm not going there."
I may be wrong and Manny will clarify when he is online, but I think he's asking that irrespective of what a person says, does, believes etc. Do they still need to be a member of the JW organisation to be considered a Christian?
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by galveston75I'd like an explanation, but you can only explain if you give an answer either yes or no?
Quote from above: "If you don't want explinations which is the only way to answer a question fairly, I'm not going there."
I already know the answer though as stated above.
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23 Apr 11
One really has to wonder Galvo and Robbie are so adverse to answering a simple question. It really is a simple case of yes or no. Are JWs necessarily the only Christians? Does one need to be a JW to be Christian? Could an Anglican or Baptist be called Christian? In short, does following Christ require membership in the JW organisation? They are all the same question essentially.
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by Conrau KDepends on whom you ask, obviously.
One really has to wonder Galvo and Robbie are so adverse to answering a simple question. It really is a simple case of yes or no. Are JWs necessarily the only Christians? Does one need to be a JW to be Christian? Could an Anglican or Baptist be called Christian? In short, does following Christ require membership in the JW organisation? They are all the same question essentially.
Asking a JW would garner you a "yes", I'm guessing, while most Christians would say "no".
Probably not restricted to the JWs. You could ask a Catholic the same question, and they'd probably say "yes", you would have to be a Catholic. Same with the Mormons. Or any sect, probably.
23 Apr 11
Originally posted by Conrau KNot even close.
No other organisation takes seriously Matthew 28? What, are the JWs singularly responsible for the spread of Christianity across the world?
I believe the Catholics spread it a lot further than the JWs, not necessarily to the benefit of the locals.