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Originally posted by Grampy BobbyHoH is a potato?
Yes, I know. Still letting the small (and medium size) potatoes go, Bosse, as usual.
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Originally posted by lauseyThank you for your considered post Lausey.
#I look around me and I know for certian that there's no way this is all an axcident, it was all very percisesly created. Here is a scientists explination of how balanced and exact it all is- http://www.firstscience.com/home/articles/big-theories/recipe-for-the-universe-just-six-numbers_1230.html
I will just address this point as the other points y ...[text shortened]... th itself, I have also posted about it at the end of Thread 119650.
Originally posted by yo its meOk, I can understand that your religious beliefs put you within your comfort zone, and as long as you aren't causing any harm, I don't think others should have any issues (although I personally have issues with religion as a whole, but that is another story).
Thank you for your considered post Lausey.
It's enough for me to axcept that God made the plannet. It's logical to me that might seam folly to you, but it feels silly to me to try to emerce myself in all the techinical infomation out there that would cloud my mind which is presently clear. Ie; You're not saying you know for sure there is no God, you're d of Hecate[/i]
[b]Why do you feel there is a God? What brought you to this belief?[/b]
Originally posted by lauseyI don't think it's useless just not as important as solving world issues. It dose have it's benefits.
Ok, I can understand that your religious beliefs put you within your comfort zone, and as long as you aren't causing any harm, I don't think others should have any issues (although I personally have issues with religion as a whole, but that is another story).
As for space exploration, I don't agree it is a worthless effort for people who want to go in that ...[text shortened]... a wide variety of fields, and it isn't fair to say that one is more useless than the other.
Originally posted by yo its meOk, time will tell. Maybe you will come to the same conclusion as me. ๐
I don't think it's useless just not as important as solving world issues. It dose have it's benefits.
I don't think my beleifs are a security blanket either I took the time to decide that God is real, it wasn't a snap decision or a falling into blindly beleiving. I am going about it from a different angle then you that's all. You might yet come to the same conclusion that I have.
Originally posted by Hand of HecateIf the existence of something isn't based on proof, when does that something actually exist?
There is no God.
Originally posted by yo its meI apologize for not getting back to you sooner. However, I was otherwise occupied and I'd rather beat up on Palynka than continue to wade my way through your semi-literate responses.
Thank you for your considered post Lausey.
It's enough for me to axcept that God made the plannet. It's logical to me that might seam folly to you, but it feels silly to me to try to emerce myself in all the techinical infomation out there that would cloud my mind which is presently clear. Ie; You're not saying you know for sure there is no God, you're d of Hecate[/i]
[b]Why do you feel there is a God? What brought you to this belief?[/b]
Originally posted by Hand of HecateI'd rather discuss things with Palynka then you too he dosen't need to atempt to insult people he disagrees with in his arguments, which is apresiated ๐
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. However, I was otherwise occupied and I'd rather beat up on Palynka than continue to wade my way through your semi-literate responses.
First off, logic and God are mutually exclusive. Do you even know what logic is?
Universe 14 billion years old (give or take a few).
Universe 78 billion light ...[text shortened]... .
Do you want a further explanation why I don't believe in the Christian definition of God?
Originally posted by Hand of Hecatei will give you the same example i gave twhite:
No. There isn't.
Why do you feel there is a God? What brought you to this belief? Give me a well grounded, reasonably thought out argument for why God exists and I'll cease refering to you as Captain Assjack from here on out. If you tell me that "He just does" or something equally inane, I swear I'll beat you with your own spine.
I am ...[text shortened]... i] exist even in the abscence of us being able to see him or interact with him in any way.
Originally posted by Hand of Hecatethat's your argument for god not existing? that the universe is really really big? mind boglingly big? it does prove how awesome god is though.
I apologize for not getting back to you sooner. However, I was otherwise occupied and I'd rather beat up on Palynka than continue to wade my way through your semi-literate responses.
First off, logic and God are mutually exclusive. Do you even know what logic is?
Universe 14 billion years old (give or take a few).
Universe 78 billion light ...[text shortened]... .
Do you want a further explanation why I don't believe in the Christian definition of God?
Originally posted by ZahlanziNo, that is not my complete argument. It's a start. However, the scale of the unverse and time are out of proprtion to those stated or accounted for in the bible. Reconciling the account you find in the bible and the actual universe reveals some significant incongruities.
that's your argument for god not existing? that the universe is really really big? mind boglingly big? it does prove how awesome god is though.
logic and god are mutually exclusive? surprise me how you got to this conclusion.
Originally posted by Hand of Hecate"First off, logic and God are mutually exclusive." your intent seems pretty clear to me. feel free to rephrase it if you wish.
No, that is not my complete argument. It's a start. However, the scale of the unverse and time are out of proprtion to those stated or accounted for in the bible. Reconciling the account you find in the bible and the actual universe reveals some significant incongruities.
It proves how awesome which God is? The Christian God? The accuracy of ...[text shortened]... ver, I did imply that YIM had demonstrated himself unable to use logic in any coherent fashion.
Originally posted by ZahlanziYou're missing the point. As I've stated earlier, I am willing to accept that an omniwhatever being outside our understanding may exist. Call this God. What I have a problem with is the mythology we as humans have wrapped around this being. Christianity is a joke. As are all organized religions. We suffer from a conceit that we know the nature of God. This is bred out of fear and a desire to assign value/understanding to unknowns.
"First off, logic and God are mutually exclusive." your intent seems pretty clear to me. feel free to rephrase it if you wish.
"However, the scale of the unverse and time are out of proprtion to those stated or accounted for in the bible. "
you using the bible to "prove" god is not real is the same as creationists using it to "prove" the earth was crea ...[text shortened]... which i gave you the death row brother example and asked you the same thing.