Originally posted by twhiteheadCan't find the Leviticus challenge yet.
I admit that my joke that writing something in stone is better than writing it on paper is absurd.
[b]Now, Have i stopped beating my wife ?
I never started beating my wife.
Bail out. Do that.
Finally, are you bored with me asking you in the next post please explain where the universe comes from?
Yes, I am bored with you asking given t ...[text shortened]... s feigned boredom is really because you have realised that you are NOT TRUE and cannot admit it.[/b]
So the "next post" promise cannot be kept. In the meantime -
I admit that my joke that writing something in stone is better than writing it on paper is absurd.
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Put up a joking flag when you want us not to take you seriously.
Now, Have i stopped beating my wife ?
I never started beating my wife.
Bail out. Do that.
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Was this another joke ?
You got the answer to your question.
"Have you stopped beating your wife yet?"
"Never started."
Looks like I saw it through to the end.
Finally, are you bored with me asking you in the next post please explain where the universe comes from?
Yes, I am bored with you asking given that I have stated multiple times that I don't know where the universe comes from and you have repeated the words back to me showing that you did read that response.
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You claim to know so much I figure you must be holding out on us.
So let's put it this way, you claim to KNOW that God did not create the universe ?
Right ?
That is something that you KNOW, Right ?
You are a real hard Atheist. You KNOW that God does not exist.
Right ?
Or you KNOW that God did not create the universe?
Expected replies -
Depends on what you mean by God.
Depends on what you mean by create.
Depends on what you mean by universe.
And maybe - it depends on what you mean by depends.
That you keep asking me to give a different answer and that you keep insisting it be 'in the next post' is disingenuous and dishonest of you.
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When I write - In your next post, it is an attempt to get you to the most important point I am interested in.
And I am not apologizing for it. I said you have every right to pin me down to the most important point you want to know also.
You get asked questions in this way because your attitude is that it should be SO OBVIOUS that your Atheistic explanation is right.
You get this kind of question because it is NOT so obvious as you assume everyone just has to realize, that the atheist logic is impeccably realistic.
Well, some of us are bored with you saying whatever the answer is you know it is not God.
Be bored then. That doesn't change the fact that I know it is not God.
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In FACT you do NOT know that it is not God is you in fact CANNOT tell what the origin of the universe is.
I have to point out though that almost every time I have said that, it is because I was asked for my opinion, so if you are bored, then don't ask.
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I won't ask this time. I will simply state that you do not KNOW that God did not create the universe because being ignorant of its origin, THAT possibility exists.
On the day you say you do know where the universe came from for certain than you can brag about how you know it was not the creation of God.
God created it.
Or God did not create it.
Do you have a third alternative to this dichotomy ?
Hopefully your next post will specify your THIRD alternative to the situation that either God is the Creator or God is NOT the Creator of the universe.
And of course your malignant egotism has long been quite boring also.
Be bored then. But I suspect that this feigned boredom is really because you have realised that you are NOT TRUE and cannot admit it.
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That is news to me.
Funny. I still realize that I am true.
When is this realization going to come down on my head like a ton of bricks that I am not true ? I'm waiting.
As to actual existence why would I not be TRUE ?
But first, what is your THIRD alternative to:
1.) God created the universe.
2.) God did not create the universe.
?
And if you have said umpteen times - "Hell if I know how the universe got here !!!" how can you KNOW it did not get here because of God ?
You are God ? Is that it ?
You're the one omniscient and you just know ?
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But I suspect that this feigned boredom is really because you have realised that you are NOT TRUE and cannot admit it.
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"I am NOT TRUE"
"I am NOT TRUE"
"I an NOT TRUE"
"I am NOT TRUE"
Funny thing, twhitehead, no matter how much I think this I STILL know that I am TRUE.
You're not true ? ? ?
Are you asking me to take a blind leap of faith ?
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Originally posted by sonshipBut you are yet to provide a single reference to show that such usage of the word 'true' is used by anyone else.
i have no problem stating that I am true (as to my actual existence).
I have no problem stating that I am a fact.
Take it up with Fetchmyjunk.
I am true in the sense that I exist in actuality. How much mileage for debate twhitehead thinks he can get out of this, who knows ?
Plenty of milage given that you are clearly only saying this in order to try and prove me wrong and desperately trying to get out of it (I notice the insertion of 'in the sense that' ).
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Originally posted by sonshipWhat Leviticus challenge? Who ever said there was a Leviticus challenge? I think you are hallucinating again.
Can't find the Leviticus challenge yet.
This reminds me of when I was young, there were two brothers who were neighbours of ours. One day they arrive and the younger one is crying. Without us saying anything, the older one says 'I didn't bite him!'.
Sure enough there were teeth marks on the younger ones arm.
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeCalling a rule, commandment or instruction a 'fact' is quite a stretch, even for the *cough* inherently logical atheist. This is what can happen when someone first attempts to define themselves before launching an attack.
Well, if the bible is the word of God, and God is the absolute authority when it comes to facts, you must surely then agree with the Leviticus verse in question (that blasphemers should be immediately stoned to death) and take this as a factual instruction for Christians to follow. - And before you counter argue that Leviticus was intended for a different age of man, don't forget your previous assertion that facts are unchanging.
It's like assuming you will win a game of chess before starting, based solely on the difference in ratings... and I can tell you from personal experience how this can really screw up a game. Before inhouse ratings showed up I was doing just fine, but now I'm either fighting against over confidence or undue intimidation. Blah!!
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Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI don't deny the fact the Leviticus says that. I just fail to see the part where it says I need to do the stoning. Would you deny the fact that most unbelievers are getting stoned? (with joints that they themselves have smoked) 😀
Well, if the bible is the word of God, and God is the absolute authority when it comes to facts, you must surely then agree with the Leviticus verse in question (that blasphemers should be immediately stoned to death) and take this as a factual instruction for Christians to follow. - And before you counter argue that Leviticus was intended for a different age of man, don't forget your previous assertion that facts are unchanging.
Originally posted by lemon limeLemon lemon lemon,
Calling a rule, commandment or instruction a 'fact' is quite a stretch, even for the *cough* inherently logical atheist. This is what can happen when someone first attempts to define themselves before launching an attack.
It's like assuming you will win a game of chess before starting, based solely on the difference in ratings... and I ca ...[text shortened]... ing just fine, but now I'm either fighting against over confidence or undue intimidation. Blah!!
Ghost issues you a warning,
reflect upon my common sense
or i'll squeeze you in the morning.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkSuffering from temporary blindness I see.
I just fail to see the part where it says I need to do the stoning.
Could you not see this verse?
The entire assembly must stone them.
It doesn't say "The entire assembly excluding Fetchmyjunk must stone them."
If you don't know what the word 'entire' means, its rather like the word 'absolute'.
Originally posted by FetchmyjunkSo you do not count yourself among 'the entire assembly?'
I don't deny the fact the Leviticus says that. I just fail to see the part where it says I need to do the stoning. Would you deny the fact that most unbelievers are getting stoned? (with joints that they themselves have smoked) 😀
Where are you exactly, in the fridge?
Originally posted by sonshipAnd maybe - it depends on what you mean by depends.
Can't find the Leviticus challenge yet.
So the "next post" promise cannot be kept. In the meantime -
[b] I admit that my joke that writing something in stone is better than writing it on paper is absurd.
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Put up a joking flag when you want us not t ...[text shortened]... because of God ?
You are God ? Is that it ?
You're the one omniscient and you just know ?[/b]
Adult diapers, maybe?
or maybe not
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Originally posted by twhiteheadWhich assembly do you think the book of Leviticus is refering to? Fetchmyjunk's assembly or the people of Israel? Your history is a little rusty, as is your sudden bravado. Is it time to call in a neutral 3rd party yet? 😵
Suffering from temporary blindness I see.
Could you not see this verse?The entire assembly must stone them.
It doesn't say "The entire assembly excluding Fetchmyjunk must stone them."
If you don't know what the word 'entire' means, its rather like the word 'absolute'.
Originally posted by twhiteheadYou said:
What Leviticus challenge? Who ever said there was a Leviticus challenge? I think you are hallucinating again.
This reminds me of when I was young, there were two brothers who were neighbours of ours. One day they arrive and the younger one is crying. Without us saying anything, the older one says 'I didn't bite him!'.
Sure enough there were teeth marks on the younger ones arm.
"I believe you are a Christian. Do you therefore believe that anyone who blasphemes should be put to death?"
Leviticus 24:16
anyone who blasphemes the name of the Lord is to be put to death. The entire assembly must stone them. Whether foreigner or native-born, when they blaspheme the Name they are to be put to death.
Because you didn't (literally) call it a 'challenge' we are not supposed to understand why it seemed to come from nowhere, and for no particular reason. Is that about right?
Who among us can know the mind of twhitehead?
There was only one reason for you to have done that, and like it or not most of us here are able to see why... it was a desperate and disingenuous ploy to shift our attention to something else. But don't dispair, just continue quietly telling yourself you possess a superior intelligence by virtue of atheist non-beliefs.
Originally posted by lemon limeNo, as usual my post went right over your head.
Because you didn't (literally) call it a 'challenge' we are not supposed to understand why it seemed to come from nowhere, and for no particular reason. Is that about right?
Sonship talked about a "Leviticus challenge" whilst simultaneously claiming not to know where in the thread it was. Given that up until that point, the only place where Leviticus was mentioned was in the post you quote one wonders how he knew there was a Leviticus challenge at all.