A conversation John Lennox and Jordan B Peterson

KellyJay

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Spirituality

12 Nov 23 19:17

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26 Nov 23 11:52

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@kellyjay said
Yes, and I promise you even if you disengage they will continue because it isn't topics that matter they only really desire to go after people.

If this is a reference to me, then you are flat out lying, KellyJay. In response to ideas, opinions, and perspectives on a range of topics that you have posted on this public forum in 2023, I have posted literally hundreds of completely on-topic and focused observations, rebuttals, and questions. All have been met with silence ever since your meltdown towards the end of 2022. So, if your claim that "it isn't topics that matter [he] only really desires to go after people" is aimed at me, then you are a liar. Having said that, your inability/ unwillingness to enter into discourse IS part of the discourse.

josephw

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26 Nov 23 17:55

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@fmf said
when the topic becomes the person

Well, the topic IS "the person": Jordan Peterson. It's in the thread title. I see him as, for the most part, a charlatan and grifter.

That's not what I meant.

When the topic is about a person, then discussing something about the person is fine by me, but I was referring to how often, in this forum, the discussion drifts from the topic to the person expressing their opinions and beliefs about the topic matter, and devolves into personal criticisms.

But I agree with your assessment of Peterson.

josephw

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26 Nov 23 17:57

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@fmf said
This is more than a bit rich coming from you, of all people, a poster whose go-to "debating points" for years have been to accuse people you disagree with of suffering from mental illness and intellectual impairment ad nauseam.

There you go.

Thanks for making my point.

josephw

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26 Nov 23 17:59

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@kellyjay said
Yes, and I promise you even if you disengage they will continue because it isn't topics that matter they only really desire to go after people.

Constantly poking at the person, and deflecting from the topic.

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26 Nov 23 22:34

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@josephw said
There you go.

Thanks for making my point.

Whoosh

KellyJay

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27 Nov 23 01:14

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@josephw said
Constantly poking at the person, and deflecting from the topic.

Topics are not important to them, they are just a means they use to enter into a conversation to drag someone down that disagrees with them. Many times the topic isn't even addressed, they jump in just to disparage others without a pretense of entering into a topical conversation.

josephw

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27 Nov 23 01:23

@kellyjay said
Topics are not important to them, they are just a means they use to enter into a conversation to drag someone down that disagrees with them. Many times the topic isn't even addressed, they jump in just to disparage others without a pretense of entering into a topical conversation.

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