1. Standard memberDoctorScribbles
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    13 Mar '07 17:33
    A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew die. Which ones go to heaven?
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    13 Mar '07 17:39
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew die. Which ones go to heaven?
    all of them, if they repent and worship God.
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    13 Mar '07 17:471 edit
    Originally posted by EcstremeVenom
    all of them, if they repent and worship God.
    The question is formulated to stipulate that the Muslim worships the Muslim God, the Catholic worships the Catholic God, and the Jew worships the Jewish God.

    Which ones go to heaven?
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    13 Mar '07 17:53
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The question is formulated to stipulate that the Muslim worships the Muslim God, the Catholic worships the Catholic God, and the Jew worships the Jewish God.

    Which ones go to heaven?
    God would let them into heaven because they all attempted to worship him no matter what their religion is
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    13 Mar '07 17:54
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The question is formulated to stipulate that the Muslim worships the Muslim God, the Catholic worships the Catholic God, and the Jew worships the Jewish God.

    Which ones go to heaven?
    They all worship the same God. If there's a heaven and they meet the entrance criteria, they're all going.
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    13 Mar '07 18:17
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew die. Which ones go to heaven?
    whoever's wearing the most outrangeous fancy dress outfit
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    13 Mar '07 19:391 edit
    Originally posted by reader1107
    They all worship the same God. If there's a heaven and they meet the entrance criteria, they're all going.
    The Muslim God is the same as the Catholic God?

    The Catholics claim that their God has a son named Jesus, and that he did not have a prophet named Mohammed.

    The Muslims claim that their God has a prophet named Mohammed but no son named Jesus.

    Thus, they do not worship the same God.
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    13 Mar '07 20:44
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The Muslim God is the same as the Catholic God?

    The Catholics claim that their God has a son named Jesus, and that he did not have a prophet named Mohammed.

    The Muslims claim that their God has a prophet named Mohammed but no son named Jesus.

    Thus, they do not worship the same God.
    That is exactly right! So, since there is only one God, who's God is God?
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    13 Mar '07 20:49
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The Muslim God is the same as the Catholic God?

    The Catholics claim that their God has a son named Jesus, and that he did not have a prophet named Mohammed.

    The Muslims claim that their God has a prophet named Mohammed but no son named Jesus.

    Thus, they do not worship the same God.
    sorry , but the god is the same in all 3 religions , taken from the old canaanite father god named El. Btw he was the father of Baal too.
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    13 Mar '07 20:52
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The Muslim God is the same as the Catholic God?

    The Catholics claim that their God has a son named Jesus, and that he did not have a prophet named Mohammed.

    The Muslims claim that their God has a prophet named Mohammed but no son named Jesus.

    Thus, they do not worship the same God.
    If some people claim you have a son and others claim that it's not your son, does that make you two different people?
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    13 Mar '07 20:55
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    The Muslim God is the same as the Catholic God?

    The Catholics claim that their God has a son named Jesus, and that he did not have a prophet named Mohammed.

    The Muslims claim that their God has a prophet named Mohammed but no son named Jesus.

    Thus, they do not worship the same God.
    I heard Minister Farrakhan do part of Rosa Parks eulogy and I kind of thought that was odd with all the Christian pastors also preaching, but he quoted Jesus saying "If any man (emphasis on any) follows me...." so his focus was that "any" could mean Jew , Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Nation of Islam, etc... So his focus was not the label but being on the "way" so to speak.
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    13 Mar '07 21:20
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew die. Which ones go to heaven?
    Where are the Hindus my brother? We are afterall the 3rd largest religion, what gives? I believe that all of them are out of the running for the big keg/steak bar-b-q party in the sky.
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    13 Mar '07 21:42
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    A Muslim, a Catholic and a Jew die. Which ones go to heaven?
    None of them, because they are all suque azzes.
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    13 Mar '07 22:137 edits
    Originally posted by Nordlys
    If some people claim you have a son and others claim that it's not your son, does that make you two different people?
    You are confounding two notions: existence and being the object of worship.

    Suppose it turns out that when we all die, God is actually a slimy green worm that eats corpses and is nothing at all like he is depicted in any of man's holy books. Would you still maintain that this is the beast that Muslims have worshipped all along? Of course you wouldn't.

    Thus, what exists has nothing to do with objects of worship, as they are mental constructs. Even if the Green Worm God turns out to be a creature that thinks you ought to hate your neighbor, Christians still will have worshipped a God, a different God, that thinks you ought to love your neighbor, as such a God was the focus of their worship; they haven't been worshipping the Green Worm beast merely because he is the God that happens to exist.

    Positing the Green Worm God is sufficient to demonstrate that you and reader are notionally mistaken in your analysis of the question, unless you actually do maintain that people have been worshipping such a beast all along if it turns out that that's what God is like.
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    13 Mar '07 23:24
    Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
    You are confounding two notions: existence and being the object of worship.

    Suppose it turns out that when we all die, God is actually a slimy green worm that eats corpses and is nothing at all like he is depicted in any of man's holy books. Would you still maintain that this is the beast that Muslims have worshipped all along? Of course you wou ...[text shortened]... e have been worshipping such a beast all along if it turns out that that's what God is like.
    Thus, what exists has nothing to do with objects of worship, as they are mental constructs.

    Generally agreed, but—

    (1) Most people do not think they worship—or even posit—mental constructs when they talk of God.

    (2) It is theoretically possible that (a) one of the constructs turns out to be more accurate that the others (assuming any actual referent behind the construct), or (b) all of them have diverse elements of accuracy and inaccuracy—as well as (c) they are all woefully inaccurate (your green worm god). I hate saying this, since it’s an argument that lucifershammer makes to me from time to time, in terms of (a).

    (3) There is really no religious expression without mental constructs—just as there is no poetry without them. The problem lies not with mental constructs per se, but with inappropriately reifying and absolutizing them.

    If George Masefield (I think) calls the moon “a galleon,” and e.e. cummings calls it “a balloon”—it seems silly to start an argument over which of those is the most accurate, or that if one is true the other must be false. Religionists would be well advised, I think, to treat their God-concepts in similar fashion: more as metaphors and less as truth-propositions—as metaphors they can be “fingers pointing to the moon” as the Zen saying goes; as truth propositions, they become fingers pointing at themselves...
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