07 Aug '08 20:05>
I have a friend. He is a fundamental christian. He believes in god and miracles and faith and all that, I believe in science.
We discuss religion and science all the time. He doesn't think science can explain everything so he stick to creationism as a solution for everything. I don't think either that science can explain everything, certainly not miracles or other things related to religion but I believe that science brings order in the universe. If there is a creator of it all, then he would be a fool if he didn't create the laws of nature to be consistent and reliable. He says, that god can do whatever he wants, and he cares about his believers.
Once we were up flying in a sport plane. After a while we had motor troubles. We had to jump. The problem was that we only had one parachute.
I said, with the parachute I can take a jump and save me with it. I believe in science, I don't think I will fall like a rock. If science work I will be saved. I have absolute faith in science. And the science about how a parachute falls, with aerodynamics, with the atomic theory that guarantees that the fabric will hold, with Newton's mechanics that ensure me not to fall too hard on the ground, the laws of gravity, electromagnetic forces, and every other natural law in science applicable.
You on the other hand have the faith in god, that god will save his own believers. You don't need a parachute, because you don't believe in science anyway.
So I took the parachute, jumped, and landed safely on the ground.
I haven't seen my friend since. Perhaps he is enjoying heaven right now, who knows. Or perhaps he's not.
Now, this is of course a hypothetical story, and a hypothetical experiment. I dare anyone to do the experiment with me.
I rely on science; my faith in science is good enough for me to challenge it. Will anyone christian fundamentalist dare to jump without a parachute, having faith enough to dare to jump with me but without parachute? Who of us will land first, and who of us will survive?
We discuss religion and science all the time. He doesn't think science can explain everything so he stick to creationism as a solution for everything. I don't think either that science can explain everything, certainly not miracles or other things related to religion but I believe that science brings order in the universe. If there is a creator of it all, then he would be a fool if he didn't create the laws of nature to be consistent and reliable. He says, that god can do whatever he wants, and he cares about his believers.
Once we were up flying in a sport plane. After a while we had motor troubles. We had to jump. The problem was that we only had one parachute.
I said, with the parachute I can take a jump and save me with it. I believe in science, I don't think I will fall like a rock. If science work I will be saved. I have absolute faith in science. And the science about how a parachute falls, with aerodynamics, with the atomic theory that guarantees that the fabric will hold, with Newton's mechanics that ensure me not to fall too hard on the ground, the laws of gravity, electromagnetic forces, and every other natural law in science applicable.
You on the other hand have the faith in god, that god will save his own believers. You don't need a parachute, because you don't believe in science anyway.
So I took the parachute, jumped, and landed safely on the ground.
I haven't seen my friend since. Perhaps he is enjoying heaven right now, who knows. Or perhaps he's not.
Now, this is of course a hypothetical story, and a hypothetical experiment. I dare anyone to do the experiment with me.
I rely on science; my faith in science is good enough for me to challenge it. Will anyone christian fundamentalist dare to jump without a parachute, having faith enough to dare to jump with me but without parachute? Who of us will land first, and who of us will survive?