Originally posted by telerionBesides there are plenty of right-wing nutjobs that hate Lennon.
Because JL was a cool dude and JC was less cool. John Lennon doesn't ask you to die for him. He wants you to live and love for him. Besides there are plenty of right-wing nutjobs that hate Lennon.
All I've wanted is serious discussion of the matter but you apparently do not. John Lennon loves you. Just believe he is alive and he will talk to you. ...[text shortened]... n from the grave? I mean you already think at least one other person has done it in the past.
I tend to vote democratic myself.
Left wingers can be Bible thumpers too you know?
Originally posted by jaywillThen again John Lennon didn't say that he was "the resurrection and the life."
[b]Because JL was a cool dude and JC was less cool.
Yes, John Lennon and you are cool dudes. If that is all you require, more cool dudes, there are plenty of cool dudes on the TV and in Marvel Comics for you.
John Lennon doesn't ask you to die for him.
Then again John Lennon didn't say that he was "the resurrection and the ...[text shortened]... e world in this words, which you want to place on the same level as the New Testament?[/b]
He doesn't need to. It was implied.
Could you please tell us what this means:
"I am the Eggman. I am the Walrus. Koo Koo Ka Jub"
What important message did this "cool dude" have for the world in this words, which you want to place on the same level as the New Testament?
You need to look inside yourself and ask why you are ignoring the great meaning of the words of JL. Only when you understand yourself can you understand John Lennon.
Originally posted by XanthosNZYou don't know much about John Lennon.
[b] Then again John Lennon didn't say that he was "the resurrection and the life."
He doesn't need to. It was implied.
Could you please tell us what this means:
"I am the Eggman. I am the Walrus. Koo Koo Ka Jub"
What important message did this "cool dude" have for the world in this words, which you want to place on the same level as the Ne ...[text shortened]... ng of the words of JL. Only when you understand yourself can you understand John Lennon.
Lennon said "So my friends. You'll just have to carry on without me"
He knew his limitations. He knew one day that he'd be gonzo.
Originally posted by XanthosNZ" Imagine no possesions,
[b] Then again John Lennon didn't say that he was "the resurrection and the life."
He doesn't need to. It was implied.
Could you please tell us what this means:
"I am the Eggman. I am the Walrus. Koo Koo Ka Jub"
What important message did this "cool dude" have for the world in this words, which you want to place on the same level as the Ne ...[text shortened]... ng of the words of JL. Only when you understand yourself can you understand John Lennon.
I wonder if you can,
no need for greed or hunger,
a brotherhood of man.
Imagine all the people,
sharing all the world yu-huh.
You may say I'm a dreamer ... "
- John Lennon
As evidenced by his law suits and copyright fights I guess Lennon couldn't imagine himself in such a world himself.
Originally posted by jaywillAnd that's what made him so great. JL knew his time on Earth was short and so did what he could. He also didn't make any promises that he couldn't keep (unlike that Jesus bastard, where the hell is that guy? "I'll be back in a bit guys, keep the candles burning." ).
You don't know much about John Lennon.
Lennon said "So my friends. You'll just have to carry on without me"
He knew his limitations. He knew one day that he'd be gonzo.
John Lennon was (is) the one true Lord.
Originally posted by Fat mans revengeDon't believe the commercials! There must be 20 mercs on the road for every porsche - the Porsche is a cool car - the Merc is just for corrupt officials in third world countries who steal aid money from the West!
Lord won't you buy me a Mercedez Benz,
My friends all drive porsches, I must make amends
Given the choice of just these two, Jesus would drive the Porsche. Moses was more of a British 70s man - he came down from the mountain in his Triumph - the bible doesn't specify which - what do you reckon worshippers? Herald maybe? The Christmas carol tells us there's a Herald fan club among the angels.
Originally posted by XanthosNZWell one promise I believe Jesus made which has been borne out is "Heaven and earth will pass away. But My words will not pass away."
And that's what made him so great. JL knew his time on Earth was short and so did what he could. He also didn't make any promises that he couldn't keep (unlike that Jesus bastard, where the hell is that guy? "I'll be back in a bit guys, keep the candles burning." ).
John Lennon was (is) the one true Lord.
Now we may have to wait for another 2,000 years to see if anyone remembers "Koo Koo Ka Jub" two millennia from now.
But seriously. I met Christ by calling upon His name and confessing how lost I was without Him. It took many years to get me to do that. Those many years were spent in saying many foolish and even vehement things against God even as some of you are displaying here.
He certainly kept the promise that whoever calls upon the name of the Lord will not be put to shame.
By the way do you think profanity kind of makes your point seem a little stronger? I always thought that profanity betrays a weakness in one's ideas rather than a strength.
The gospel of Matthew and John do not record Jesus going anywhere. And Paul's last words written in the NT to his co-worker Timothy were:
"The Lord be with your spirit" (1 Tim. 4:22)
Above all he wanted him to remember that the Spirit of the resurrected Jesus was within him and in his human spirit.
He also reminded the Corinthians that the resurrected Jesus was living within them:
"Test yourselves whether you are in the faith; prove youselves, Or do you not realize about yourselves that Jesus Christ is in you ..." (2 Cor. 13:5)
Paul also admitted that this resurrected Jesus was also living within him:
" ... and it is no longer I who live, but it is Christ Who lives in me" (Gal. 2:20)
This was consistent with the teaching of Jesus that in resurrection He would come to make an abode with His lovers:
"If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word, and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make an abode with him" (John 14:23)
And again Paul locates Christ in two places. He writes that He is at the right hand of God interceding for His believers (Rom. 8:34). And He is also within the disciples as their divine life (Rom. 8:9-11).
This is possible because "The last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45) In resurrection He was also transfigured into a form in which He could make His home within our innermost being, our human spirit. From there He gives the life of God to mingle into our human life.
He promised that though the world could not see Him He would nonetheless manifest Himself to His believers:
" ... and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will manifest Myself to him" (John 14:21)
So we can open our mouth and confess our lost state without Christ and call on His name. Though the world around cannot see Him He will manifest Himself to the one who calls upon His name. And He as the life giving Spirit will come into one and cause them to be regenerated in a spiritual birth.
He tells His disciples that He will bring them into the realm and sphere of the Triune God:
"In that day you will know I am in My Father, and you in Me, and I in you" (John 14:20)
Originally posted by XanthosNZYou're absolutely right. I really am terrible. I am worse than you could ever know.
Self-important arrogance is pretty Christian.
That is why I need the life of Christ so much. Only Christ is absolute for the Father's will.
I am so very thankful that in Jesus there is a salvation from my arrogance. What a Friend and Savior!
Originally posted by jaywillThe funny thing is that christian theology insists that Christ was a bastard; Mary's husband wasn't the father of the child, ya know. What you call profanity, I call accurate terminology.
By the way do you think profanity kind of makes your point seem a little stronger? I always thought that profanity betrays a weakness in one's ideas rather than a strength.
Originally posted by jaywillYou're a nut job.
Well one promise I believe Jesus made which has been borne out is "Heaven and earth will pass away. But My words will not pass away."
Now we may have to wait for another 2,000 years to see if anyone remembers "Koo Koo Ka Jub" two millennia from now.
But seriously. I met Christ by calling upon His name and confessing how lost I was without Him. It t ...[text shortened]... I always thought that profanity betrays a weakness in one's ideas rather than a strength.
Heaven and earth will pass away? When did that happen? I must have missed it. I reckon the sky and the earth will be here long, long after humans are mere fossils. SO much for your god.
Originally posted by XanthosNZCan I get a Hallelujah! Amen!
And that's what made him so great. JL knew his time on Earth was short and so did what he could. He also didn't make any promises that he couldn't keep (unlike that Jesus bastard, where the hell is that guy? "I'll be back in a bit guys, keep the candles burning." ).
John Lennon was (is) the one true Lord.
Technically, a person cannot be experienced, by the way. One can experience an image of a person and assume the existence of the image is actually caused by a person and is not a hallucination; one can experience powerful emotion and assume it's caused by a person; but one cannot experience a person because a person is not an experience. Experiences are perceptions; people are not perceptions though they can cause perceptions through the medium of their bodies.