1. Standard memberSwissGambit
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    How the hell does that work, anyway? It's obviously not your typical star if it can be that specific.
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    30 Dec '09 13:49
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    How the hell does that work, anyway? It's obviously not your typical star if it can be that specific.
    The Unique Person of the universe isn't your typical person, either.
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    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    How the hell does that work, anyway? It's obviously not your typical star if it can be that specific.
    I don't know for sure, but I think it has to do with more than just a single star.

    Before the constellations were hijacked by the astrologers they where designed by God to show the story of creation.

    There is a fascinating description of what the constellations signify, but I'm not able to give it.

    Perhaps someone with better skills can find and show what I'm talking about.
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    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c019.html

    It has long been suggested that the constellations are God-given illustrations of gospel truths. Indeed, constellation names go far back into mankind's history. The Jewish historian Josephus says they were named by Seth, the third son of Adam, but perhaps even Adam had a part, since he named the animal world (Genesis 2:19). The Bible says that God assigns His own names to the stars (Psalms 147:4). If so, He may have revealed them to early people.

    Of special interest are the twelve zodiac constellations. This band of stars lies in the plane of the solar system. They appear high in the night sky, roughly along the same path traveled by the sun during the day. During the course of each year the zodiac constellations take turns in appearing: for example, Scorpius in summer, Gemini in winter. Job 38:32 makes reference to the bringing forth of these constellations (or "Mazzaroth" in the King James Version) in their season.

    The idea of seeing the gospel message in the stars was popularized by the writings of E.W. Bullinger and J.A. Seiss during the 1800s. Here is a brief outline of the usual zodiac interpretations:


    Zodiac Interpretations Constellation Picture Interpretations
    Virgo Virgin Virgin Mary
    Libra Scales Sin must be paid for
    Scorpius Scorpion Sin brings death
    Sagittarius archer Demonism
    Capricorn Goat-fish Earth corruption
    Aquarius Water pourer Living water or Noah's flood
    Pisces Fish God's remnant
    Aries Ram Sacrifice
    Taurus Bull Resurrection
    Gemini Twins Christ's dual nature
    Cancer Crab Gathering of redeemed
    Leo Lion The King

    Early writings on this subject went into great detail regarding different parts of the constellations, so that practically every star was assigned a special meaning.

    The gospel message may well have been purposely written in the skies by the Lord. In that case, perhaps the star signs served as memory aids before Scripture was available.


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    Caution is needed when searching for the gospel in the stars, since constellation symbols can have many possible interpretations.
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    Today, of course, the Bible provides a clear message about the plan of God. Although stars continue to "declare the glory of God" (Psalm 19:1) and are useful in our calendar system (Genesis 1:14), the Bible does not tell us to search the stars for detailed messages. On the contrary, warnings are given against trusting in the stars. Caution is needed when searching for the gospel in the stars, since constellation symbols can have many possible interpretations. Since Babylonian times, Satan has counterfeited the zodiac with astrology.

    Many people still claim to see symbols of the gospel in unusual places: crosses on flower petals, Christmas stars on sand dollars, and even religious images on rusty water towers! God certainly designed all things, but we must beware of building our doctrine on the details of nature. We can be thankful that the Bible presents the gospel to us so clearly that we have no need for additional evidence of its truths.
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    The twelve major constellations of the Zodiac are referred to in the bible as the "Mazzaroth." The word "Zodiac" comes from the Greek zoad, which means "the way" or "the path." According to many Christian scholars, God depicted his story and his promise of salvation within the stars.
    The saga begins with Virgo (a virgin) bringing forth a son. Libra (balance) follows, an indication that man does not possess the power to save himself. The price is deficient. A scorpion and an archer appear together, symbolizing the battle between Satan (Scorpio the Scorpion) and Jesus Christ (Sagittarius the Archer). The intent of Satan is to sting (and thereby kill) Christ in order to thwart God's plan of salvation. The archer has his bow drawn toward Satan and the half-man half-horse depicts the dual nature of Jesus Christ: God and man. Next, comes Capricorn, an animal which is part-goat and part-fish. The goat was often used in sacrificial ceremonies to cleanse sins on the day of atonement. Christ was, in effect, that perfect sacrifice, adopting the sins of the world. A water-bearer (Aquarius) is next to enter the arena, pouring out an endless supply of water. Within that water are the fish (Pisces) which personify Jesus Christ as one who died to save the human race. Pisces Australia (the southernmost fish) dwells in the flow. As the fish cannot survive outside the water, so this symbolism states that an individual is unable to survive outside the pouring of the Holy Spirit. Pisces is a twofold constellation, representative of both Jew and Gentile who will be bound to Satan until the return of Jesus Christ. Satan, of course, is engaged in constant battle with the Church. Early believers used the sign of Pisces to secretly identify themselves.

    A ram (Aries) appears, depicting the reign of Jesus who will soon return, heralding the triumph of the Church over Satan. In the guise of a bull (Taurus), Christ will return to lead the charge and "gore" the evil before setting up his rule on earth. Gemini the Twins presents a picture of the newly-acquired dual role of the savior: the suffering servant and the righteous judge. A crab (Cancer) depicts a place of safety for those believers who will escape the Day of Judgment. In the form of a lion (Leo) will the victory of Christ be complete and the defeated Satan cast down. Thus in glorious triumph, does Leo step upon the head of Hydra the Serpent.
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    Just the other day a rainbow led me to a pot of gold.
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    30 Dec '09 14:17
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Just the other day a rainbow led me to a pot of gold.
    A rainbow led you?
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    30 Dec '09 14:17
    Originally posted by josephw
    A rainbow led you?
    Yes. There were ponies involved too.
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    30 Dec '09 14:22
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Yes. There were ponies involved too.
    No Elves? How about a Leprechaun?
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    Originally posted by josephw
    No Elves? How about a Leprechaun?
    Don't be silly, those are myths.
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    30 Dec '09 15:12
    Originally posted by josephw
    http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-c019.html

    It has long been suggested that the constellations are God-given illustrations of gospel truths. Indeed, constellation names go far back into mankind's history. The Jewish historian Josephus says they were named by Seth, the third son of Adam, but perhaps even Adam had a part, since he named the animal ...[text shortened]... the gospel to us so clearly that we have no need for additional evidence of its truths.
    I have a later copy of Joseph A. Seiss' "The Gospel in the Stars: or, Primeval Astronomy" first published in 1882 by E. Claxton & Company, Philadelphia.

    He details the meanings behind each of the constellations, even going into the details of origins for names of individual stars within the same, under the persuasion that...
    "When God created these heavenly worlds, He said, "And let hem be for SIGNS.""

    However, his work (and the work of others, such as Gale, Faber, Roberts and especially Rolleston) is not content to simply impose the Gospel onto the constellations as an after-thought. Instead, he researches the antediluvian history of these stars, showing how their meanings were much later hijacked by those wishing to impose pagan ideas on the original intentions.

    Written in the 19th century makes the book a bit of a tough nut, but the fruit inside makes the effort worthwhile.
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    30 Dec '09 21:17
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Don't be silly, those are myths.
    😀
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    30 Dec '09 22:15
    Originally posted by SwissGambit
    How the hell does that work, anyway? It's obviously not your typical star if it can be that specific.
    Supernatural events are rarely typical.
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    30 Dec '09 22:25
    Originally posted by Palynka
    Just the other day a rainbow led me to a pot of gold.
    Don't tell Rusty!
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    Originally posted by FreakyKBH
    I have a later copy of Joseph A. Seiss' "The Gospel in the Stars: or, Primeval Astronomy" first published in 1882 by E. Claxton & Company, Philadelphia.

    He details the meanings behind each of the constellations, even going into the details of origins for names of individual stars within the same, under the persuasion that...
    "When God created these hea ...[text shortened]... ry makes the book a bit of a tough nut, but the fruit inside makes the effort worthwhile.
    And isn't it odd that with so much evidential truth available to discuss no one in this forum,(I'm speaking about the avowed atheists and naysayers) is willing to engage.

    Could it be they are afraid of what they may learn?
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