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    12 Jul '05 22:30
    is abortion even a tiny bit ethical? i saw a bumper sticker that said" aboritionists wacking babies since 1972"
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    13 Jul '05 01:04
    We should stone women who get pregnant outside of wedlock to death.
  3. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    13 Jul '05 01:06
    Originally posted by Monel
    is abortion even a tiny bit ethical? i saw a bumper sticker that said" aboritionists wacking babies since 1972"
    As Darvlay might say...

    Are you Christian?

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  4. Standard memberKellyJay
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    13 Jul '05 01:18
    Originally posted by Monel
    is abortion even a tiny bit ethical? i saw a bumper sticker that said" aboritionists wacking babies since 1972"
    Do you like chocolate or vanilla better? That is this entire question
    simply put, it is a personal taste question on what is more important
    nothing more, a woman’s right to choose, or the life within the
    woman. Depending on the flavor you like, what is inside a woman
    gets killed with every successful abortion or not.
    Kelly
  5. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    13 Jul '05 01:22
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Do you like chocolate or vanilla better? That is this entire question
    simply put, it is a personal taste question on what is more important
    nothing more, a woman’s right to choose, or the life within the
    woman. Depending on the flavor you like, what is inside a woman
    gets killed with every successful abortion or not.
    Kelly
    Hmmm, seems like you are saying one of these flavors is bad, the way you worded the end.

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  6. Standard memberKellyJay
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    13 Jul '05 01:50
    Originally posted by Phlabibit
    Hmmm, seems like you are saying one of these flavors is bad, the way you worded the end.

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    At the end of the day, one is life, one is death, that is all there is to it
    in my opinion.
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    13 Jul '05 01:53
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    Do you like chocolate or vanilla better? That is this entire question
    simply put, it is a personal taste question on what is more important
    nothing more, a woman’s right to choose, or the life within the
    woman. Depending on the flavor you like, what is inside a woman
    gets killed with every successful abortion or not.
    Kelly
    as a christian KJ, do you think there is a 'right' flavor? what would jesus say on abortion in your opinion?

    i disagree that the abortion issue is about personal taste. some nights i crave chocolate; some nights i crave vanilla. my personal tastes are fleeting, fluctuating, and flippy. somehow i think abortion is more cut and dried. the right to choose is a sketchy concept in some contexts. do i have the right to choose to kill my next door neighbor? of course not. therefore i think the only question is at what point does 'life' begin?
  8. Standard memberPhlabibit
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    13 Jul '05 03:09
    Originally posted by KellyJay
    At the end of the day, one is life, one is death, that is all there is to it
    in my opinion.
    Kelly
    At the end of the day, your thinking is not 'functionally complex' on the subject.

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  9. Standard memberWulebgr
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    13 Jul '05 03:11
    The Bible clearly associates life with breath. So, the anti-abortion position must rest its ethical statements on some other grounds.

    If you fail to ejaculate, your sperm dies. If your egg is not fertilized, it dies. If a fertilized egg is not properly implanted, it dies. Life dies. The only real question concerns the boundaries that determine when life is sufficiently viable that to end its existence is tantamount to killing.

    Most Americans who would protect an immature embryo have few qualms about killing, when the victim is a foreign enemy, a serial rapist, or a common housefly.
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    13 Jul '05 03:17
    Reducing what it means to be a human being to a collection of blastocysts is degrading to humanity and, if you are inclined to believe in such a personality, God.
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    13 Jul '05 05:33
    admittedly, i think the question is very difficult. i don't think i have enough medical knowledge to be able to profess to know when 'life' begins. maybe with rigorous study i could fashion a working theory. that aside, it seems to me that if there exists considerable unrest and discord between experts and otherwise interested parties on the subject, then the prudent thing would be to preferentially lean in the direction of preservation of life (or of that which may well be life according to the informed observer), under the safe premise that one does not possess the right to choose to commit murder. in the extreme case that said discord is overwhelming, this view collapses to the pro-life stance.

    translation: i have no idea. here i claim ignorance, but not apathy.
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    13 Jul '05 05:508 edits
    Originally posted by LemonJello
    here i claim ignorance, but not apathy.
    honest
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    13 Jul '05 10:37
    when wemen kill there babies has society died?. if i had killed a child inside a woman i would be charged with murder and rightly so but wemen have double stadards. it seems that the pill,etc has not done what it set out to do as this shows, if it had the problem would have gone.
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    Medical Science clearly proves that from the moment of conception, the zygote and finally the fetus is entirely a new human being. The fetus has completely original DNA. All that fetus will need from the point of conception till birth is oxygen and nutrition. Basically it is a very immature human.

    Conception is the only cut off date that is really viable for the formation of a new human.
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    14 Jul '05 17:24
    Originally posted by Halitose
    Medical Science clearly proves that from the moment of conception, the zygote and finally the fetus is entirely a new human being. The fetus has completely original DNA. All that fetus will need from the point of conception till birth is oxygen and nutrition. Basically it is a very immature human.

    Conception is the only cut off date that is really viable for the formation of a new human.
    Have you considered the full implications of biochemistry defining life where the Sacred Scriptures remain silent?
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