Originally posted by dj2beckerI think I have stated before that you cannot be 100% sure about anything to do with reality. That is, you can think you are but thats not the same thing. Whether or not existence is 'real' depends very much on your definitions of the two words.
Are you 100% sure that you exist?
However I would prefer that you stop constantly asking the same questions along the line of "is this or that absolute" and get to the point. Most of the time you already know my answer or it is a yes or no answer so you could quite easily include in your post your responses to both a yes or no answer.
So far you have stated without evidence or proof that the existence of absolutes implies the existence of absolute truth (facts) and that this implies the existence of absolute right and wrong or absolute morals.
Please explain your logic for the absolute truth implies absolute morals or admit that it is not a logical conclusion. Continually going round and round while restating the unproved claim will not make it true.
Listen, dj2, I haven't gone through each and every post on here. You've been rambling about the same thing over and over again. But jsut out of curiousity, do you realise that the majority do not share your opinion? You are obviously bent on your idea of absolute truth from your god who made rules or whatever which he himself did not follow. Don't you feel strange that most of us do not agree with you? Think about it for a moment.
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Originally posted by stockenI've always been the first to say that nothing exists.
I've always been the first to say that nothing exists. Flip through the void
thread and you'll see me make that "crazy" statement. Everything can
come from nothing simply because everything is nothing.
Of course, that's just a flimsy mind-game. The only truth we carry within
us, is that of our own delusional state; I mean our own selfawarenes ...[text shortened]... he information you receive will determine how well you
understand the truth behind it.
And you know this how?
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Originally posted by twhiteheadSo you are not 100% sure that reality is real?
I think I have stated before that you cannot be 100% sure about anything to do with reality. That is, you can think you are but thats not the same thing. Whether or not existence is 'real' depends very much on your definitions of the two words.
However I would prefer that you stop constantly asking the same questions along the line of "is this or that ...[text shortened]... Continually going round and round while restating the unproved claim will not make it true.
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Originally posted by stockenBefore I take all the trouble to do that, would you mind telling me how you know for sure that nothing exists?
First you have to define the words "real" and "reality", then we can tell you if
the word "real" applies to the word "reality" or not.
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Originally posted by stockenWould you mind pointing out where I made the claim that I know for sure that everything exists?
Before I take all the trouble to do that, would you mind telling me how you know for sure that everything exists?
On the other hand you made the following claim:
"I've always been the first to say that nothing exists."
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Originally posted by dj2beckerI also said that's just flimsy mindgames, and then went on with the real
Would you mind pointing out where I made the claim that I know for sure that [b]everything exists?
On the other hand you made the following claim:
"I've always been the first to say that nothing exists."[/b]
contents of my post, you buffoon.
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Originally posted by stockenHow you interpret the information you receive will determine how well you understand the truth behind it.
I've always been the first to say that nothing exists. Flip through the void
thread and you'll see me make that "crazy" statement. Everything can
come from nothing simply because everything is nothing.
Of course, that's just a flimsy mind-game. The only truth we carry within
us, is that of our own delusional state; I mean our own selfawarenes ...[text shortened]... he information you receive will determine how well you
understand the truth behind it.
If people interpret reality in different ways does that mean that each person's interpretation of reality is true? And also how would you go about checking whether or not your interpretation of reality is true or not?
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Originally posted by dj2beckerRead the sentence again. I said how well we understand the truth behind
[b] How you interpret the information you receive will determine how well you understand the truth behind it.
If people interpret reality in different ways does that mean that each person's interpretation of reality is true? And also how would you go about checking whether or not your interpretation of reality is true or not?[/b]
a phenomenon of any kind is dependant on how we interpret what we
see. I didn't say that we all interpret it correctly even if we have different
interpretations.
As for checking reality, it's a simple circle: 1) Observe, 2) hypothesise, 3)
test hypothesis, 4) make it theory, or 5) go back to 1. That is the only
way we know of to reach some real knowledge, whether reality is real or
not. This is the wrong way to go: 1) Read an ancient book, 2) trust the
word of mere men calling themselves priests, and 3) if things doesn't fit
your interpretation, ignore them, or 4) if pushed by inquisitive people,
explain it away with some fuzzy argument such as "God is above his own
standards and can do or allow anything to happen if it so wishes", and 5)
go back to step 1.
In my opinion.
If all else fails, tell everyone how you can feel it in your heart that you're
right. That's a very convincing argument right there.
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Originally posted by stockenDo you mean to say that reality consists only of that which you can observe?
Read the sentence again. I said how well we understand the truth behind
a phenomenon of any kind is dependant on how we interpret what we
see. I didn't say that we all interpret it correctly even if we have different
interpretations.
As for checking reality, it's a simple circle: 1) Observe, 2) hypothesise, 3)
test hypothesis, 4) make it theory, o ...[text shortened]... feel it in your heart that you're
right. That's a very convincing argument right there.
Let us take for example abiogenesis. Has it ever been observed?