All or nothing

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you believe the Bible is trustworthy and is God's revelation to mankind it means you have to believe all of it. You can't pick and choose what you like. If for example you choose only to take the words that Jesus spoke and yet you reject the words of the apostles it means you may as well reject everything because it means you don't trust the scriptures. If you don't trust all of it you may as well trust none of it.

But that is just your opinion based upon the opinion of some dudes at the Synod of Hippo 400 years after the birth of Christ.
(And that's just the Catholic Bible)
(Do you agree with all the additions to the Protestant bible?)

Originally posted by dj2becker
Do you believe all of the Bible, only the parts you like or none of it? You have dodged this question about 10 times now so unless you answer it don't expect me to respond to your questions.

all of which Bible?

Which books do you believe in and why?

Which books do you disbelieve in and why?

Originally posted by wolfgang59
But that is just your opinion based upon the opinion of some dudes at the Synod of Hippo 400 years after the birth of Christ.
(And that's just the Catholic Bible)
(Do you agree with all the additions to the Protestant bible?)

Good question. I bet he knows nothing of how what he calls 'the Bible' came about.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Good question. I bet he knows nothing of how what he calls 'the Bible' came about.

Many Christians (not all) seem to treat the bible as if it magically appeared in its current form, with little apparent knowledge of its construction.

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you believe the Bible is trustworthy and is God's revelation to mankind it means you have to believe all of it. You can't pick and choose what you like. If for example you choose only to take the words that Jesus spoke and yet you reject the words of the apostles it means you may as well reject everything because it means you don't trust the scriptures. If you don't trust all of it you may as well trust none of it.

Why do you think Christians disagree about biblical meaning?

Originally posted by dj2becker
If you believe the Bible is trustworthy and is God's revelation to mankind it means you have to believe all of it. You can't pick and choose what you like.

That's why there are so numerous amount of denominations.

If christians themselves agree to the holy facts, then they would be worth some respect to their claim to have the Holy Truth in their hand.

It seems that the only thing every christian agree to is that atheists will end up in hell! Is that the most important thing, the basic pillar, of the christianity?

Originally posted by FabianFnas
That's why there are so numerous amount of denominations.

If christians themselves agree to the holy facts, then they would be worth some respect to their claim to have the Holy Truth in their hand.

It seems that the only thing every christian agree to is that atheists will end up in hell! Is that the most important thing, the basic pillar, of the christianity?

Hell is going to be for sinners who die in their sins, those that are not going to die in their
sins are those that are saved by Jesus Christ, they will have God's Spirit in them in this
life, and are walking out their lives in Christ. They will be doing the works of God
throughout their lives, but it will be the blood of Christ that saves us.

Those that think they are righteous enough due to they are good enough, well that will be
put to the test, do they have sin in their lives unforgiven? Those that think they are good
enough to their works, will those works remove the sin from their lives, if not they too
will die in their sins and will find that their list of good works are not what God required.

We talk about being saved, because that is what it is, it isn't efforts of being good enough,
that is not being saved that is attempting to make one's self worthy. Saved are us sinners
that Jesus died for and calls to Himself. It isn't the to the sinners' glory it is to Jesus' glory
that we saved, we cannot add to His work that saves us, what can we do to compare to
the blood of Jesus Christ by our efforts? We owe Him all, and if there is anything in us
worthy of praise, it is because He helped us put it there.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Hell is going to be for sinners who die in their sins, those that are not going to die in their
sins are those that are saved by Jesus Christ, they will have God's Spirit in them in this
life, and are walking out their lives in Christ. They will be doing the works of God
throughout their lives, but it will be the blood of Christ that saves us.

Those t ...[text shortened]... all, and if there is anything in us
worthy of praise, it is because He helped us put it there.

You are declaring yourself "saved" ?

Even if you continue "sinning", you're "saved" come what may?

Originally posted by KellyJay
Hell is going to be for sinners who die in their sins, those that are not going to die in their
sins are those that are saved by Jesus Christ, they will have God's Spirit in them in this
life, and are walking out their lives in Christ. They will be doing the works of God
throughout their lives, but it will be the blood of Christ that saves us.

Those t ...[text shortened]... all, and if there is anything in us
worthy of praise, it is because He helped us put it there.

How many of the christians are going to hell, according to you?
50%? More? Less? Can you give an approximate percentage?

Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Many Christians (not all) seem to treat the bible as if it magically appeared in its current form, with little apparent knowledge of its construction.

This means that when Jesus, Paul and others spoke of 'the scripture', they were referring to a different set of books from the KJV.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
But that is just your opinion based upon the opinion of some dudes at the Synod of Hippo 400 years after the birth of Christ.
(And that's just the Catholic Bible)
(Do you agree with all the additions to the Protestant bible?)

We see things differently, if I can trust God for my salvation then trusting Him to put the right books in the Bible is a piece of cake.

Originally posted by wolfgang59
all of which Bible?

Which books do you believe in and why?

Which books do you disbelieve in and why?

All the books that are in the Bible now when I open it, if God wanted more or less of them in there He would have seen to it.

Originally posted by Rajk999
If it is indeed correct that what Jesus says is the exact opposite of what other parts of the bible say then I would lean towards the teachings of Jesus.

There are several reasons for that, all of which is in the bible:
- Jesus Christ is the sole authority on eternal life
- Jesus is the final judge of who enters the Kingdom of God
- Many other Bible prophets, apostles are less knowledgeable than Jesus

So only the words of Christ in your Bible are divinely inspired? Is that correct?

Originally posted by dj2becker
So only the words of Christ in your Bible are divinely inspired? Is that correct?

All are divinely inspired.
Not all are the words of eternal life.
Jesus has the words of eternal life.
Let me know if you want proof of that.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Hell is going to be for sinners who die in their sins, ...

Says what denomination? All of the multitude denominations? I don't think so.

Some says that believing in evolution is a sin that deserves hell. Others hold snakes to prove their sinlessness, the ones that not dares to touch the venomous creatures are full of sins and deserves hell.
Some thinks that Jehovas Withesses are led astray by Satan and will meet him at the hot place.

Come back when all christians agree on this important matter.