1. Standard memberNemesio
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    27 Mar '05 04:52
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    Goats are unbelievers.
    Goats, Darfius, are people who do not feed the hungry,
    give drink to the thirsty, give clothes to the naked, visit the
    imprisoned, and comfort the dying and afflicted.

    They are 'believers' and nonbelievers bothwho do not live a life
    of service.

    I'm not denying that there is a vocation to preach the Gospel.
    However, Jesus NEVER meant for the Gospel to be preached at
    the expense of ignoring the needy. Never. His life was one of
    service. If you want to be a Christian, imitate Jesus. Give all
    that can to those who need it far more than you.

    Nemesio
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    27 Mar '05 05:08
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    Goats, Darfius, are people who do not feed the hungry,
    give drink to the thirsty, give clothes to the naked, visit the
    imprisoned, and comfort the dying and afflicted.

    They are 'believers' and nonbelievers bothwho do not live a life
    of service.

    I'm not denying that there is a vocation to preach the Gospel.
    However, Jesus NEVER meant for the Gos ...[text shortened]... Christian, imitate Jesus. Give all
    that can to those who need it far more than you.

    Nemesio
    You are the hungry, Nemesio. You are the thirsty. You are naked. You are imprisoned. You are dying.

    You hunger and thirst for God.

    Without Him, you are naked, open to the temptations of Satan.

    You are held prisoner by your flesh. You wish to be righteous but cannot without Him.

    Unless you come to the Father, Nemesio, you will not receive eternal life, and you will die. 🙁
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    27 Mar '05 05:231 edit
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    Goats, Darfius, are people who do not feed the hungry,
    give drink to the thirsty, give clothes to the naked, visit the
    imprisoned, and comfort the dying and afflicted.

    They are 'believers' and nonbelievers bothwho do not live a life ...[text shortened]... e all
    that can to those who need it far more than you.

    Nemesio
    One must remember that we all have different talents and gifts. The following passage reflects this concept.
    1st Corinthians 12:14-18

    14 for also the body is not one member, but many;
    15 if the foot may say, `Because I am not a hand, I am not of the body;` it is not, because of this, not of the body;
    16 and if the ear may say, `Because I am not an eye, I am not of the body;` it is not, because of this, not of the body?
    17 If the whole body were an eye, where the hearing? if the whole hearing, where the smelling?
    18 and now, God did set the members each one of them in the body, according as He willed,

    Each and everyone of us have a function and a part in the body of Christ. You would not use your ear to taste a donut would you? Not everyone is a farmer who can raise food to feed the poor, not everyone has a well of water to quench the thirsty. Each and everyone of has our own part, we have been given skills, resources, spiritual gifts and a conviction of the heart to be Christ to the nations.

    One should not feel badly if they can never go to South America as a missionary, they have their own ministery as God has ordained. If I never play a guitar and never lead praise and worship, should I be chastised for not doing so? If my gift is not in music, I should not be expected to minister in that area.

    All the things Nemesio mentions are worthy and honorable to Christ. As a corporate body we can accomplish all of those things, as an individual we may not accomplish nothing.

  4. Standard memberNemesio
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    27 Mar '05 05:58
    Originally posted by Darfius
    You are the hungry, Nemesio. You are the thirsty. You are naked. You are imprisoned. You are dying.
    So much for literalism.

    You are lying to yourself and to God. If you read St Matthew 25:31-46 honestly,
    you will know that Jesus was most certainly and without doubt referring to people
    with physical needs and that all nations will be judged by these criteria.

    Confer St James 2:15-17 -- If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has
    no food for the day, and one of you says to them, 'Go in peace, keep warm, and
    eat well,' but you do not give them the nessitites of the body, what good is it?
    So also faith of itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

    This is clearly the literal bodily needs of a person (which matches up 100%
    with the Matthean passage).

    So, either you are accepting your explicit mandate as a Christian to feed the poor,
    and attend to those in needs, or you aren't.

    By your own account, you aren't.

    Nemesio
  5. Standard memberDarfius
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    27 Mar '05 08:06
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    So much for literalism.

    You are lying to yourself and to God. If you read St Matthew 25:31-46 honestly,
    you will know that Jesus was most certainly and without doubt referring to people
    with physical needs and that all nations will be judged by these criteria.

    Confer St James 2:15-17 -- If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has
    no food ...[text shortened]... ,
    and attend to those in needs, or you aren't.

    By your own account, you aren't.

    Nemesio
    Did the thief on the cross perform works after becoming saved, Nemesio?

    If not, your theory literally falls apart.
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    27 Mar '05 08:31
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    An excellent way for a Christian to share about that truth of Salvation in Christ.

    'How Do I Share?'
    Part two of a two-part series
    Q: "Is there anything that will help me to do the very thing I want so much to do—to tell others that I have found a way of surviving death, living forever, being forgiven of my sins and exploring the goodness of God fo ...[text shortened]... rist Jesus our Lord (Philemon 1:6), and we find a complete revitalization of our Christian life.
    I think a grand way for Christians to share about the truth of salvation and ever lasting life would be a mass-suicide.

    Look, I'll pick the date (Tomorrow) and all you christians have to do is top yourselves, join your maker and laugh about me for the rest of eternity!!!

    Sound good?
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    27 Mar '05 08:38
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    So much for literalism.

    You are lying to yourself and to God. If you read St Matthew 25:31-46 honestly,
    you will know that Jesus was most certainly and without doubt referring to people
    with physical needs and that all nations will be judged by these criteria.

    Confer St James 2:15-17 -- If a brother or sister has nothing to wear and has
    no food ...[text shortened]... ,
    and attend to those in needs, or you aren't.

    By your own account, you aren't.

    Nemesio
    Have you ever noticed how little they quote Christs word's?
    Today is Easter and it would be nice to see His words resurrected.
    Frankly, it gets tiresome to see NT quotes that dilute, change or vary His message.It's almost like they think He didn't really know what he meant.
  8. Standard memberNemesio
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    27 Mar '05 13:23
    Yes. We all have 'spiritual gifts' to offer.

    But we all have a mandate to help those in physical need.

    How much food did you throw away this week, Una? How many of your
    clothes sit in drawers and seldom, if ever get used?

    There is always someone poorer than you, Una. There is always something
    of yours that another person needs more.

    Who 'can't' go down to South America? The poor? Sure, they are the ones
    needing. But most people choose not to go down to South America.
    They choose to get married, buy houses, cars and so forth. They
    choose not to give up 3 months, 6 months, 12 months of their lives
    for those who so desparately need it.

    And, why South America? Where do you live Una? It doesn't matter, because
    I can guarantee that, within a 50 mile radius, there are people who don't have
    enough food to eat.

    There is not such thing as an able-bodied individual who can accomplish nothing.
    That is a lie to tell Christians that they can be lazy and not do works to demonstrate
    their faith. Think of how much time you spend in front of the computer, writing
    posts to people whom you deem heathen, playing chess, and fooling around.
    Compare that to how much time you spend at the local soup kitchen.

    What do you think the ratio should be for able-bodied Christians? 1:1? 1:2?
    What would Jesus do? Would He play chess or would He feed the hungry?
    What would His ratio of playing chess or feeding the hungry be?

    Nemesio
  9. Standard memberNemesio
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    27 Mar '05 13:26
    Originally posted by Darfius
    Did the thief on the cross perform works after becoming saved, Nemesio?

    If not, your theory literally falls apart.
    So does your theory of 'Confessing Jesus is Lord with one's mouth,'
    as all he said was 'Remember me when you come into your kingdom.'
    He refers to Jesus as 'a man who committed no crime,' that's all.

    The theif did what works he could do in sincerity.

    Can you say the same? By your own admission, you cannot.

    Nemesio
  10. Standard memberDarfius
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    27 Mar '05 19:16
    So does your theory of 'Confessing Jesus is Lord with one's mouth,'
    as all he said was 'Remember me when you come into your kingdom.'
    He refers to Jesus as 'a man who committed no crime,' that's all.


    He professed that Jesus was who He said to be. King of the Jews and Savior. He was saved. No works required, and those of you who interpret Matthew 25 (but none of the rest of the Bible) literally are left drooling.

    The theif did what works he could do in sincerity.

    What work can you do strung up on a cross?

    Can you say the same? By your own admission, you cannot.

    Don't put words into my mouth, Nemesio. I do what works I can when I can in all sincerity, including sharing the Gospel with you all.
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    27 Mar '05 19:38
    Originally posted by Darfius
    He professed that Jesus was who He said to be. King of the Jews and Savior. He was saved. No works required, and those of you who interpret Matthew 25 (but none of the rest of the Bible) literally are left drooling.

    Actually, he didn't. He never confessed Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the
    Living God, Lord of life, or anything else. He never s ...[text shortened]... rt, have you been Christian in the past two weeks?

    Tell the truth and shame the devil.

    Nemesio
  12. Standard memberDarfius
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    27 Mar '05 22:011 edit
    Originally posted by Nemesio
    You might want to fix your last post.
  13. Standard memberNemesio
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    28 Mar '05 04:12
    Originally posted by Darfius
    You might want to fix your last post.
    Aw crap. I'll rewrite it later.

    Nemesio
  14. Standard memberRBHILL
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    29 Mar '05 23:25
    Originally posted by Maustrauser
    Excuse me!

    I am not mocking your god. I am mocking you.

    And it isn't hard. What in the world does "Like I said to Nemesiosissy qiut mocking God's Word" mean? What is a Nemesiosissy? A species of butterfly? And I can't really tell you what a "qlut" is. Probably a small russian fish used in the sex industry.

    I have had the pleasure of ...[text shortened]... that "everyone is a sinner." That's a claim by your book. It doesn't relate to the truth.
    If you mock a believer in Christ or any religion for that matter you are mocking the head of that religion.
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    29 Mar '05 23:36
    Originally posted by RBHILL
    If you mock a believer in Christ or any religion for that matter you are mocking the head of that religion.
    reread some of your posts about Catholics and Moslems and ,,,,, and,,,,,,, and ,,, then come back and repeat what you just wrote.
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