Originally posted by BigDoggProblemAccording to the atheists herein, there never was.
Give me someone who knows how to make a worthy counter-argument, and then I will start caring whether someone on the other side takes me seriously.
Because right now, it doesn't matter. This thread has been a severe disappointment. There is apparently no one left to engage this type of argument on behalf of theism for RHP.
You can plug your ears and pretend you don't hear it, act like you don't see it, but the truth haunts you nonetheless.
When you are asked point-blank, specific questions or are offered the same in the form of a statement, you all--- each and every one of you--- react with vitriol and evasion.
The very objections I made to this premise have not once been addressed, except as dismissive asides... without a single word or phrase which could counter the objections.
Instead, insult and hand-waving are the order of the day.
Since you think I'm wrong, either answer on your own or quote the response to just this single objection:
Where does the author establish a reasonable expectation for anything in life other than suffering and death?
Originally posted by googlefudgeBecause you are a self deluded moron who's 'arguments' were total bunk,
Because you are a self deluded moron who's 'arguments' were total bunk,
and have been multiply refuted.
And it really doesn't matter that you are too blind to see that.
Anyone capable of understanding the argument will be able to see how bad
your arguments were and understand the refutations given and come to their
own conclusions. About you ...[text shortened]... e of understanding
the arguments. Which would be cruel if you didn't so thoroughly deserve it.
and have been multiply refuted.
I'm guessing that you were going more for the insult than the psychological definition of moron, since it's not real likely that an actual moron would be capable of self-delusion.
The challenge I put forth to BDP stands for you.
Between the two of you, I'm sure there's enough brain power to muster a fart or two, so answering that challenge ought to be a piece of cake.
You have been proven wrong, your 'points' dealt with, and now your simply being
messed with for entertainment because your evidently incapable of understanding
the arguments. Which would be cruel if you didn't so thoroughly deserve it.
Ah, the ol' whatever-malady-gets-me-out-of-ridicule-for-spelling-stuff-incorrectly kicking in again, I see?
If you're form of entertainment is messing with self-deluded morons, I can see why you spend so much time alone.
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Originally posted by BigDoggProblemRight now I would be happy if there were a participating theist who just had some semblance of understanding regarding what the premises in the argument assert.
Give me someone who knows how to make a worthy counter-argument, and then I will start caring whether someone on the other side takes me seriously.
Because right now, it doesn't matter. This thread has been a severe disappointment. There is apparently no one left to engage this type of argument on behalf of theism for RHP.
Off the top of my head, lucifershammer was one who could at least understand an argument. Conrau K was exceptionally bright. And Halitose and epiphinehas were engaging at times as well. I used to like discussing with Coletti as well.
Originally posted by LemonJellothen perhaps you have not explained it clearly enough, after all its a very poor teacher who cannot explain the premise upon which his argument is built so that others can readily grasp it. I suggest that instead of focusing on the alleged difficulties of other people, you focus on your self and your failure to effectively communicate what it is you are trying to say in a clear and simple manner. Then again perhaps what you are saying holds no interest for people or you have alienated them by insulting them, who can say?
Right now I would be happy if there were a participating theist who just had some semblance of understanding regarding what the premises in the argument assert.
Off the top of my head, lucifershammer was one who could at least understand an argument. Conrau K was exceptionally bright. And Halitose and epiphinehas were engaging at times as well. I used to like discussing with Coletti as well.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieGee, thanks so much for the advice robbie...it carries such esteem.
then perhaps you have not explained it clearly enough, after all its a very poor teacher who cannot explain the premise upon which his argument is built so that others can readily grasp it. I suggest that instead of focusing on the alleged difficulties of other people, you focus on your self and your failure to effectively communicate what it is you ...[text shortened]... e saying holds no interest for people or you have alienated them by insulting them, who can say?
Originally posted by LemonJelloHell, I'd be happy with an atheist who knew what the argument had to say, let alone a theist who understood the premises.
Right now I would be happy if there were a participating theist who just had some semblance of understanding regarding what the premises in the argument assert.
Off the top of my head, lucifershammer was one who could at least understand an argument. Conrau K was exceptionally bright. And Halitose and epiphinehas were engaging at times as well. I used to like discussing with Coletti as well.
But alas, the only atheist worth their salt no longer frequents the site.
Instead, we're stuck with these wanna-be's who can't argue their way out of a wet paper bag open at both ends.
<sigh>
