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    22 Jul '17 21:521 edit
    epic rap battles

    chaney3 vs divegeester

    That's all I got. Could be fun though, right?
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    22 Jul '17 21:57
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    There is very little which is original in the NT...
    Cannot be overstated, but the believers don't care. I kinda see their point though. If you believe then all objections are kinda put into a box that says here is the devil, or something.
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    23 Jul '17 21:58
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Perhaps you have a list of times you would like people to post?
    Yes please Charles.
    Also bring me my tea just 5 minutes after. There's a good lad
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    23 Jul '17 21:59
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    I have a problem with you.

    I don't like you.
    The Tibetans didn't mind the Chinese 😕
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    23 Jul '17 22:01
    Originally posted by @divegeester
    Oh dear...
    Dont worry .. dude ....
    If I've learnt anything is that those that threaten violence often end up worst off.

    Mind you I'll defend the crap out of you
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    23 Jul '17 22:02
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    Be afraid, thought crime fighter.

    Dumb.
    Nong
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    23 Jul '17 22:06
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    There is very little which is original in the NT. Nearly every episode and tenet has an analog in the ancient literature of the Mediterranean or North Africa or India. A god who is incarnated in human form, betrayed, killed, resuscitated. People being raised from the dead. A good god and an evil god who duel for humanity, the good god eventually winning in ...[text shortened]... re all there in pagan religions (Zoroastrianism, Gnosticism, Osiris mythology, etc.). Just read.
    Your account of Boddhisatvas is not entirely accurate, but in the right spirit
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    Originally posted by @karoly-aczel
    Your account of Boddhisatvas is not entirely accurate, but in the right spirit
    There are multiple accounts. The Indian traditions embody a depth and richness unmatched by any Western religion. Not surprising, given that India achieved high civilisation when most of the rest of the world was still igniting campfires with sticks and stones.
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    24 Jul '17 11:17
    Originally posted by @chaney3
    This is a very, very good thread.

    The Bible was written from past accounts. It is not holy at all.
    Well, it's holy in the aspect of it having BIG holes in it.....
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    24 Jul '17 11:18
    Originally posted by @moonbus
    There are multiple accounts. The Indian traditions embody a depth and richness unmatched by any Western religion. Not surprising, given that India achieved high civilisation when most of the rest of the world was still igniting campfires with sticks and stones.
    And having enemies heads stomped flat by having an elephant jam down on it from about 6 feet up.... At least it would be quick.
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    24 Jul '17 23:08
    Originally posted by @sonhouse
    And having enemies heads stomped flat by having an elephant jam down on it from about 6 feet up.... At least it would be quick.
    Man's inhumanity to man is well-attested in all cultures, including our own. UNICEF estimates that 3 million children die every year due to avoidable/preventable malnutrition. That's a damning indictment of the OECD nations which massively over-produce food and waste much of it.

    https://www.unicefusa.org/press/releases/unicef-too-many-children-dying-malnutrition/8259
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    25 Jul '17 00:23
    Originally posted by @rbhill
    By whom and what was there reason and belief for doing so?
    http://www.religioustolerance.org/com_geba.htm
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    New Testament persons who were confirmed to have lived by Non-Christian Sources and/or Confirmed Through Archeology
    ( not an exhaustive list )

    From I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist by Frank Turek Phd.


    Agrippa I (Acts 12:1-24) confimred by Philo, Josephus
    Agrippa II (Acts 25:13-26,32) confirmed by coins, Josephus
    Ananias (Acts 23:2; 24:1) confirmed by Josephus
    Arestas (2 Cor. 11:32) confirmed by Josephus
    Bernice (wife of Agrippa II) (Acts 23:13) confirmed by Josephus
    Caesar Augustus (Luke 2:1) confirmed by Josephus and others
    Caiaphas (several citations) confirmed by ossuary, Josephus
    Claudius (Acts 11:28; 18:2) confirmed by Josephus
    Drusilla (wife of Felix) (Acts 24:24) confirmed by Josephus
    Egyptian false prophet (Acts 21:38) confirmed by Josephus
    Erastus (Acts 19:22) confirmed by inscription
    Felix (Acts 23:24-25:14) confirmed by Tacitus, Josephus
    Gallio (Acts 18:12-17) confirmed by inscription
    Gameliel (Acts 5:34; 22:3) confirmed by Josephus
    Herod Antipas (Matt. 14:1-12; Mark 6:14-29; Luke 3:1; 23:7-12) confirmed Josephus
    Herod Archalaus (Matt. 2:22) confirmed by Josephus
    Herod the Great (Matt. 2:1-19; Luke 1:5) confirmed by Tacitus, Josephus
    Herod Philip I (Matt. 14:3; Mark 6:17) confirmed by Josephus
    Herod Philip II (Luke 3:3) confirmed by Josephus
    Herodias (Matt. 14:3; Mark 6:17) confirmed by Josephus
    Herodias's daughter (Solome) (Matt. 14:1-12; Mark 6:14-29) confirmed by Josephus
    James (several citations) confirmed by Josephus
    John the Baptist (several citations) confirmed by Josephus
    Judas the Galilean (Acts 5:37) confirmed by Josephus
    Lysanias ( Luke 3:1) confirmed by inscription, Josephus
    Pilate (several citations) confirmed by inscriptions, coins, Josephus, Philo, Tacitus
    Quirinius (Luke 2:2) confirmed by Josephus
    Porcius Festus (Acts 24:27-26:32) confirmed by Josephus
    Sergias Paulus (Acts 13:6-12) confirmed by inscription
    Tiberius Ceasar (Luke 3:1) confirmed by Tacitus, Suetonius, Paterculus, Dio Cassius, Josephus
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    25 Jul '17 16:25
    Originally posted by @sonship
    New Testament persons who were confirmed to have lived by Non-Christian Sources and/or confirmed by Archeology
    ( not an exhaustive list )

    From [b] I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist
    by Frank Turek Phd.


    Agrippa I (Acts 12:1-24) confimred by Philo, Josephus
    Agrippa II (Acts 25:13-26,32) confirmed by coins, Josephus ...[text shortened]... sar (Luke 3:1) confirmed by [b] Tacitus, Suetonius, Paterculus, Dio Cassius, Josephus [/b]
    When you say "confirmed by Josephus", in what decade was he writing?
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    Originally posted by @sonship
    New Testament persons who were confirmed to have lived by Non-Christian Sources and/or Confirmed Through Archeology
    ( not an exhaustive list )

    From [b] I Don't Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist
    by Frank Turek Phd.


    Agrippa I (Acts 12:1-24) confimred by Philo, Josephus
    Agrippa II (Acts 25:13-26,32) confirmed by coins, Jos ...[text shortened]... sar (Luke 3:1) confirmed by [b] Tacitus, Suetonius, Paterculus, Dio Cassius, Josephus [/b]
    The references are to people in the Gospels, Epistles and the book of Acts.
    Could someone construct a similar table concerning the mythology of Osiris or Horus.

    Thankyou
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