Originally posted by LemonJello
Weren't you the one who stated that consciousness is unique to humans only? Do you or do you not think pain is a conscious state?
By the way, how do you know the worms/fish that you handle during fishing feel pain? That's a serious question, btw. The mentality of fish is an interesting topic.
yes humans are conscious that they can inflict pain upon others, it appears to me to
be the beginning of spirituality, this awareness. I was thinking about this very thing
the other day when i was observing a hawk resting on a tree beside a loch (lake) near my
home, when he catches a small mouse or shrew, is he really conscious that
as he digs his talons into it and rips it apart, that he is inflicting pain? If he looked
down upon his prey and reflected for a moment, would he be able to stare into its
eyes and not feel some sense of remorse? I was really thinking this btw. My
conclusion was, that he must feel no remorse or is hardened to it, by the bitter
struggle to survive. Worms feel pain because when you put a hook into them they
wriggle like mad, this is desirable of course as it attracts fish, a trick is to rub them
in the soil near where you are fishing as it somehow stills them before you impale
them with a hook, how do I know fish feel pain, well it must be painful to have a
barbed hook pierce your lip or jaw and be dragged through the water,
sometimes you will see small traces of blood, the worst case scenario is when the
fish swallows the hook entirely so that not even long disgorgers will remove it from
its stomach, this must be painful.
I must add that we fished exclusively for game fish, salmon, trout brown/rainbow
and sea trout, we do not consider anything like Perch and Pike as having any
validity and are a nuisance, I tell you this because the idea is to eat the fish that one
catches, but I don't like fresh trout or salmon so that was also a consideration
therefore it could be construed as being a 'blood sport', in my case.