Originally posted by FMF Can any group of Christians who declare themselves to be in agreement with each other also declare themselves to have been predicted by Paul?
predicted by Paul? He counsels Christians to speak in agreement so that there should
not be divisions and sects which is exactly what we do, the result being that we are a
worldwide united brotherhood, you cant touch this, you have nothing to even compare
with it.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie predicted by Paul?
galvesto75 said "But when Paul said Jesus's followers would be in complete agreement, he meant it." And my question, which you simply ignored, was "Can any group of Christians who declare themselves to be in agreement with each other also declare themselves to have been predicted by Paul?"
Originally posted by robbie carrobie predicted by Paul? He counsels Christians to speak in agreement so that there should
not be divisions and sects which is exactly what we do, the result being that we are a
worldwide united brotherhood, you cant touch this, you have nothing to even compare
with it.
The Jehovah's Witness are a sect that does not speak in agreement with other Christians.
Originally posted by FMF galvesto75 said "But when Paul said Jesus's followers would be in complete agreement, he meant it." And my question, which you simply ignored, was "Can any group of Christians who declare themselves to be in agreement with each other also declare themselves to have been predicted by Paul?"
bizarre, real bizarre, considering you have turned a piece of advice into a prediction. Can you also change lead into gold?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie bizarre, real bizarre, considering you have turned a piece of advice into a prediction. Can you also change lead into gold?
"Jesus's followers would be in complete agreement" is a prediction. 'Jesus's followers should be in complete agreement' is a piece of advice.
Originally posted by FMF "Jesus's followers would be in complete agreement" is a prediction. 'Jesus's followers should be in complete agreement' is a piece of advice.
he said it with respect to a statement which had its application in the first century and
by extension ours also, if its a prediction, why did Paul give the advice and sought that it be
applied immediately in his own time? Are these pedantic arguments over words really
the full substance of your spirituality?
Originally posted by robbie carrobie he said it with respect to a statement which had its application in the first century and
by extension ours also, if its a prediction, why did Paul give the advice and sought that it be
applied immediately in his own time? Are these pedantic arguments over words really
the full substance of your spirituality?
It was you who chose to play with words when you tried to turn what is evidently a prediction into what you call "a piece of advice".
Originally posted by FMF It was you who chose to play with words when you tried to turn what is evidently a prediction into what you call "a piece of advice".
FAIL, I can locate the exact scriptural reference dated to the first century and demonstrate how it was to be applied immediately, you have nada.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie FAIL, I can locate the exact scriptural reference dated to the first century and demonstrate how it was to be applied immediately, you have nada.
galveston75 utilized the quote on the previous page as if to claim Paul was predicting the unanimity of the sect he is a member of. You seem to be claiming Paul was referring to your sect also. There are millions and millions of Christians who do not agree with the doctrines of your sect.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie LOL, how they actually make disciples without teaching and preaching the gospel must be a modern day miracle.
There are over 14 million members in the UMC compared to a little over 1 million JWs. They spread the good news, not by going door-to-door, but by giving aid and comfort around the world. They do unto others as they would have other do unto them. They save lives rather than take lives. This is the way they influence others for Christ rather than selling or pushing Awake! magazine on to them. For some it is very hard work. But they say it is rewarding work for the Lord. For they help the lest of the brothers in Africa as well as other parts of the world. How much help do the JWs give the lest of Christ's brothers?
Originally posted by RJHinds There are over 14 million members in the UMC compared to a little over 1 million JWs. They spread the good news, not by going door-to-door, but by giving aid and comfort around the world. They do unto others as they would have other do unto them. They save lives rather than take lives. This is the way they influence others for Christ rather than selling ...[text shortened]... well as other parts of the world. How much help do the JWs give the lest of Christ's brothers?
1 million? Plueeze, try more like 7.5 million. So they bribe people into becoming Christians, interesting. Christ was known first and foremost as a teacher, his humanitarian works were always secondary to his teaching. Its unbelievable that anyone can read the gospel and not realise the same. You are simply failing to help people hep themselves and it takes much longer to sit with someone and help them overcome all manner of problems than hand out food parcels, you don't know anything. If you want to know what we do try looking at our humanitarian efforts after the tsunami in Japan, or New Orleans or Tahiti or anywhere else for that matter. You were in the US military and here you are preaching about saving lives rather than taking them, please excuse me while i am sick!