22 Jul 15
Originally posted by RJHinds'Integumentary structures that gave rise to the feathers of birds are seen in the dorsal spines of reptiles and fish. A similar stage in their evolution to the complex coats of birds and mammals can be observed in living reptiles such as iguanas and Gonocephalus agamids. Feather structures are thought to have proceeded from simple hollow filaments through several stages of increasing complexity, ending with the large, deeply rooted, feathers with strong pens (rachis), barbs and barbules that birds display today.'
If it has feathers, it must be a bird. Reptiles do not have feathers. That is a fact of science. 😏
23 Jul 15
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeMore speculation by evolutionists. Nothing more. 😏
'Integumentary structures that gave rise to the feathers of birds are seen in the dorsal spines of reptiles and fish. A similar stage in their evolution to the complex coats of birds and mammals can be observed in living reptiles such as iguanas and Gonocephalus agamids. Feather structures are thought to have proceeded from simple hollow filaments th ...[text shortened]... deeply rooted, feathers with strong pens (rachis), barbs and barbules that birds display today.'
25 Jul 15
Originally posted by sonhouseYes, I agree this thread belongs in the Spirituality forum and not in Science...
http://www.nature.com/srep/2015/150716/srep11775/pdf/srep11775.pdf
Dinosaur with a lot of feathers. Another notch against creationists.
So is there anyone other than twhitehead who wants to claim evolution is not used by atheists to discredit religion? This is only a suggestion, but maybe you and the other atheists here could benefit by comparing notes in order to avoid contradicting one another.
no need to get upset, it's only a suggestion
25 Jul 15
Originally posted by lemon limeEvolution does not discredit religion, just the creation story. I don't know if you knew, but the biblical creation story is lifted from an ancient Egyptian 6 day creation tale, but cut and pasted and edited for Jewish culture. Biblical creation is plagiarized from Egypt.
Yes, I agree this thread belongs in the Spirituality forum and not in Science...
So is there anyone other than twhitehead who wants to claim evolution is [b]not used by atheists to discredit religion? This is only a suggestion, but maybe you and the other atheists here could benefit by comparing notes in order to avoid contradicting one another.
no need to get upset, it's only a suggestion[/b]
Also, it is not in the bible ANYWHERE where it says Earth is only 6000 years old like young Earth creationists try to claim.
Those numbers simply come from the sum of all the George Begat Suzie who begat Roger who begat Zulu, who begat Ab who begat, etc,etc., etc.
They just assume all those begats are totally 100% accurate. tell me of ANY ancient document 100% accurate. So many assumptions to come up with that 6000 year figure, but that doesn't matter. Some dude did those 'calculations' and now it is 'proven' the Earth is 6000 years old.
Which is about as close to BS as anything will ever come.
25 Jul 15
Originally posted by sonhouseAm I supposed to believe your attempt at discrediting the creation story is not part of an overall effort to discredit Christianity and a belief in God?
Evolution does not discredit religion, just the creation story. I don't know if you knew, but the biblical creation story is lifted from an ancient Egyptian 6 day creation tale, but cut and pasted and edited for Jewish culture. Biblical creation is plagiarized from Egypt.
Also, it is not in the bible ANYWHERE where it says Earth is only 6000 years old l ...[text shortened]... oven' the Earth is 6000 years old.
Which is about as close to BS as anything will ever come.
It's difficult to dispute YEC from a Biblical perspective when acts of creation are immediately followed by, "And there was evening and there was morning, the first day"... "second day", "third day", "fourth day", etc. And what proof do you have to show that the Biblical story of creation was plagiarized from Egypt? Egypt wasn't the first or only culture to have a similar creation story. And there have also been unrelated cultures (at various times and places) that had stories of a world wide flood...
coincidence?
25 Jul 15
Originally posted by lemon limeNot a coincidence.
Egypt wasn't the first or only culture to have a similar creation story. And there have also been unrelated cultures (at various times and places) that had stories of a world wide flood...
coincidence?
Those ancient civilisations grew up on flood plains that flooded each year.
Floods were a known phenomenon. (And unexplained)
Not unexpected that floods would be attributed to a god
and that an angry god may deliver a bigger than usual flood one day.
25 Jul 15
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Originally posted by sonhouseAs great as this is, posting it here is an open invitation for god botherers to come and fling bible scat around in the science forum.
http://www.nature.com/srep/2015/150716/srep11775/pdf/srep11775.pdf
Dinosaur with a lot of feathers. Another notch against creationists.
25 Jul 15
Originally posted by wolfgang59Oh, good grief... do you really think people back then were so stupid they couldn't tell the difference between a flood plain and the entire world?
Not a coincidence.
Those ancient civilisations grew up on flood plains that flooded each year.
Floods were a known phenomenon. (And unexplained)
Not unexpected that floods would be attributed to a god
and that an angry god may deliver a bigger than usual flood one day.
Welcome to the Spirituality Forum 😞
25 Jul 15
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Originally posted by lemon limeAh, you mean they had access to God's GPS and knew all about Australia, Antarctica, North and South America, Siberia and all that back in the so-called flood days?
Oh, good grief... do you really think people back then were so stupid they couldn't tell the difference between a flood plain and the entire world?
Welcome to the Spirituality Forum 😞
Are you one of those taking the flood story literally?