Today, being Ascension Day, which is observed by Christians, is a national holiday here in Indonesia. It falls 39 days after Easter.
Most Muslims believe the prophet Jesus was not crucified - and did not die - but was raised bodily to heaven by God. An ascension of sorts, then. The Koran says "...they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them...".
Jews did not see Jesus as either their messiah or as a prophet and instead saw him as a criminal who was executed.
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Originally posted by @fmfAnd how do you see Jesus, Kiddo?
Today, being Ascension Day, which is observed by Christians, is a national holiday here in Indonesia. It falls 39 days after Easter.
Most Muslims believe the prophet Jesus was not crucified - and did not die - but was raised bodily to heaven by God. An ascension of sorts, then. The Koran says "...they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to ...[text shortened]... esus as either their messiah or as a prophet and instead saw him as a criminal who was executed.
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Originally posted by @romans1009From what FMF has said in the past it seems FMF sees him as being the charismatic leader of some convoluted ancient Hebrew mythology who was partly responsible for the spread of some superstitious nonsense regarding the afterlife.
And how do you see Jesus, Kiddo?
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Originally posted by @dj2beckerHow did FMF go from being a Christian for 30 years to that?
From what FMF has said in the past it seems FMF sees him as being the charismatic leader of some convoluted ancient Hebrew mythology who was partly responsible for the spread of some superstitious nonsense regarding the afterlife.
A day or two ago, he attributed the change to “no longer believing what Christians said about themselves and about Jesus” and became quite testy when asked to elaborate.
Surely there’s more to the story than that.
Has he explained in the past what caused his loss of faith? He brings it up all the time but never says what happened or why.
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10 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009It seems FMF is elaborating on his journey from believer to atheist in another thread.
How did FMF go from being a Christian for 30 years to that?
A day or two ago, he attributed the change to “no longer believing what Christians said about themselves and about Jesus” and became quite testy when asked to elaborate.
Surely there’s more to the story than that.
Has he explained in the past what caused his loss of faith? He brings it up all the time but never says what happened or why.
Glad I put a bee in his bonnet.
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10 May 18
Originally posted by @romans1009Get in line for some Christian psychoanalysis. Two chairs, no waiting.
It seems FMF is elaborating on his journey from believer to atheist in another thread.
Glad I put a bee in his bonnet.
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Originally posted by @fmfIt is observed by some Christians, most notably Catholics and Anglican denominations. The protestant denominations who do often shift the date forward to the next Sunday, at least in America, in an attempt to reach more people.
Today, being Ascension Day, which is observed by Christians, is a national holiday here in Indonesia. It falls 39 days after Easter.
Most Muslims believe the prophet Jesus was not crucified - and did not die - but was raised bodily to heaven by God. An ascension of sorts, then. The Koran says "...they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to ...[text shortened]... esus as either their messiah or as a prophet and instead saw him as a criminal who was executed.
In my church, which is part of the Anglican Communion, it is a Principal Feast day. Next is Pentacost, coming ten days later.
10 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfIs there something you're trying to say?
Today, being Ascension Day, which is observed by Christians, is a national holiday here in Indonesia. It falls 39 days after Easter.
Most Muslims believe the prophet Jesus was not crucified - and did not die - but was raised bodily to heaven by God. An ascension of sorts, then. The Koran says "...they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to ...[text shortened]... esus as either their messiah or as a prophet and instead saw him as a criminal who was executed.
10 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThe OP is pretty straight forward and uncontroversial. Suzanne has pointed out that Ascension Day is not marked by all Christians, though.
Is there something you're trying to say?
11 May 18
Originally posted by @fmfYes. And a lot of people that don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas.
The OP is pretty straight forward and uncontroversial. Suzanne has pointed out that Ascension Day is not marked by all Christians, though.
There's only one really most significant day for all true believers, and that's the day Jesus rose from the dead.
11 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonDo you mark Ascension Day?
Yes. And a lot of people that don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas.
There's only one really most significant day for all true believers, and that's the day Jesus rose from the dead.
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11 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonIn Judaism, Yom Kippur (Atonement Day) is arguably the most sacred holiday of the Jewish year.
Yes. And a lot of people that don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas.
There's only one really most significant day for all true believers, and that's the day Jesus rose from the dead.
'Atonement', of course, is also a central tenet of the Christianity faith. With this in mind, 'why' is the day 'Jesus rose from the dead' the only really significant day for all true believers?
11 May 18
Originally posted by @secondsonThat is not a day I hold as a special or significant day. I hold no days as especially significant except the day that is today.
Yes. And a lot of people that don't believe in Jesus celebrate Christmas.
There's only one really most significant day for all true believers, and that's the day Jesus rose from the dead.
11 May 18
Originally posted by @suzianneWow, normally I am a great speller, but this one embarrasses me.
It is observed by some Christians, most notably Catholics and Anglican denominations. The protestant denominations who do often shift the date forward to the next Sunday, at least in America, in an attempt to reach more people.
In my church, which is part of the Anglican Communion, it is a Principal Feast day. Next is Pentacost, coming ten days later.
It's Pentecost, Suzi, not Pentacost.
I've not been sleeping well lately, and I think it's catching up to me.